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Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by WalterSear » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 8:49 PM UTC

eikenberry wrote: post #17

bsg75 wrote: post #10

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What is the result of the typical over-the-counter dose, often 3-5 mg?

I found that the higher doses lead to me falling asleep fine but I tend to wake up in the middle of the night. I assumed the pill was getting my melatonin to high and when it went back to natural levels it triggered my waking up. I've been using 1mg lately (the lowest I can find) and they work much better. Still help make me drowsy, but without waking up in the middle of the night.

I've found that 0.3 mg will have me waking up very briefly in the night, but that my sleep is still refreshing. I assumed that this might have something to do with the 'dual sleep' that humans are ostensibly supposed to have had, before electricity came along.

I recommend experimenting with amounts (I break my pills up) and finding the amount that works for you.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by enraged_camel » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

bsg75 wrote: post #10

WalterSear wrote: post #9

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They don't. They might reduce eyestrain (I have it installed on all my computers, fwiw), but they aren't effective enough on their own to help with sleep. In psychology grad school, I learned that a single blue photon hitting the back of the is sufficient to cause a measurable shift in melatonin output. Note: measurable is not the same as deleterious, but flux doesn't even eliminate all the blue light your computer i…

What is the result of the typical over-the-counter dose, often 3-5 mg?

I think the effect is different for everyone. I personally have extremely vivid (and not necessarily pleasant) dreams when I take a 3mg pill. 1mg or less works great, though.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by dates » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:06 PM UTC

Filligree wrote: post #2

If you don't want orange glasses, try f.lux (Windows, Mac) or redshift (Linux). Either one accomplishes much the same effect by adjusting the (apparent) color temperature of your screen depending on time of day. It distorts colors, if you fancy yourself a photographer, but your eyes will thank you.

I Jailbroke my iphone just to install f.lux on it, I definitely recommend it!

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by elwell » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:06 PM UTC

josephpmay wrote: post #19

This is mostly useless antidotal evidence, however: I started wearing orange tinted glasses about a week or two ago, and I have noticed that they help me feel more tired when I'm trying to fall asleep. However it could just be a placebo. The downside is that I can't do any design work while wearing them, and programming is more difficult because code coloring is really off in Sublime. If I continue to wear them, I'll…

When staying up to prog, use f.lux.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by wlesieutre » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:08 PM UTC

scott_karana wrote: post #13

tempestn wrote: post #11

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You can get, for example, Lux Auto Brightness for Android though. Helps me since I read in bed on my phone before going to sleep. Edit: the name notwithstanding, it does more than adjust brightness, including filtering color temperature, much like f.lux

GP's point was that glasses do everything . Nobody is going to port flux to your lightbulb, or TV. ;) Why install N pieces of software when 1 piece of hardware will do?

>Nobody is going to port flux to your lightbulb

Maybe not your lightbulb!

https://justgetflux.com/news/pages/bigupdate/ (#10)

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by TY » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:09 PM UTC

I've been using yellow tinted Gunnar glasses for about 5 years (wearing them now as I'm typing this)- they do help a lot with eye strain reduction.

Prior to wearing Gunnars, I'd often have headaches by 4 pm and my eyes felt dry and quite tired. I was sceptical in the beginning, but these things do help.

Easily the best $140 that I spent on ergonomics.

http://www.gunnars.com/

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by michaelchisari » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:13 PM UTC

josephpmay wrote: post #19

This is mostly useless antidotal evidence, however: I started wearing orange tinted glasses about a week or two ago, and I have noticed that they help me feel more tired when I'm trying to fall asleep. However it could just be a placebo. The downside is that I can't do any design work while wearing them, and programming is more difficult because code coloring is really off in Sublime. If I continue to wear them, I'll…

I can't do any design work while wearing them, and programming is more difficult because code coloring is really off in Sublime

Maybe that's a positive. If you're supposed to be winding down for bed, those are two activities you really shouldn't be doing.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by heffo » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:15 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #22

bsg75 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the result of the typical over-the-counter dose, often 3-5 mg?

I think the effect is different for everyone. I personally have extremely vivid (and not necessarily pleasant) dreams when I take a 3mg pill. 1mg or less works great, though.

As with any medication, side effects vary. When I took melatonin, I would very quickly fall asleep but would still wake up extremely tired. I also experienced very severe depression when on melatonin, that started about 2 days after use, and ended about a day after stopping use.

I do know people that have had it work very well for them, however.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by WalterSear » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:28 PM UTC

heffo wrote: post #28

enraged_camel wrote: post #22

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I think the effect is different for everyone. I personally have extremely vivid (and not necessarily pleasant) dreams when I take a 3mg pill. 1mg or less works great, though.

As with any medication, side effects vary. When I took melatonin, I would very quickly fall asleep but would still wake up extremely tired. I also experienced very severe depression when on melatonin, that started about 2 days after use, and ended about a day after stopping use. I do know people that have had it work very well for them, however.

That hangover in the morning means you were taking too much, fwiw. If I were you, I'd experiment with much lower doses.

Re: Can orange glasses make you sleep better?

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Post by scott_karana » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 9:32 PM UTC

wlesieutre wrote: post #25

scott_karana wrote: post #13

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GP's point was that glasses do everything . Nobody is going to port flux to your lightbulb, or TV. ;) Why install N pieces of software when 1 piece of hardware will do?

>Nobody is going to port flux to your lightbulb Maybe not your lightbulb! https://justgetflux.com/news/pages/bigupdate/ (#10)

I knew someone would post that ;)

Kudos!