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The F-35's $400k helmet

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Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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The nice thing about the public scrutiny of the F-35 program, is all this normally-classified capability information that's released out to the public to get them excited about the project. Such level of publicity of cutting edge weapon systems simply didn't exist a decade ago.

It's a smoke screen. In the skunks they are doing a pilotless version.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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All this technology just to kill people. It is a sad world we live in.

Without such technology, we will be in a world where virtually every able bodied young man will have to serve in the armed forces. Because of such specialized technology and people who dedicate their lives to the craft of warfare, most of our young generation do not have to serve in the military.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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The nice thing about the public scrutiny of the F-35 program, is all this normally-classified capability information that's released out to the public to get them excited about the project. Such level of publicity of cutting edge weapon systems simply didn't exist a decade ago.

may be it isn't cutting edge anymore?

It is cutting edge from an operational perspective. You normally want to keep the precise capabilities of weapon systems hidden from adversaries for as long as possible, as knowing these make countering the systems much easier - but not in the case of the F-35; testing information, development progress, flight envelope and technologies are routinely discussed.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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post #20
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

looking at the low tech - WWII style - war in Ukraine with a lot of civil population and property being hit, intentionally and unintentionally, i'd take high tech any time over it. For example when a full salvo (16) of unguided missiles (from "Uragan" system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-27_Uragan ) with 100Kg cluster warheads rains over the center of large city (Donetsk) ... i wish that US give Ukraine high-precis…

No modern Russain Federation tanks can be seen around Donetsk (like T-14 or at least T-90). No regular army either (except DPR army).

T-14 is still not in the army. Probably not even in the mass production yet. No T-90 has been sent to Ukraine. Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. Regular Russian army units (at the scale of several "battalion tactical groups", about 2000-3000 soldiers total) were sent to Ukraine in August 2014 - they stopped very successful Ukraine offensive by encircling significant forces near Illovaysk back then - and in January/February 2015 when they were primary force in encircling the Ukraine's forces near Debaltsevo. Combined battalion group (about 300-500) of platoons of special forces and paratroopers from various Russian units were performing major offensive in Donetsk airport in December.

Officially the soldiers were "on vacation" (just happen to vacation with their guns and tanks in Ukraine). Unfortunately for wounded and killed in the January/February 2015 many of them were really put "on vacation" paperwork-wise and now they or their relatives have troubles trying to get the compensation money.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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It's a very 'agile' project. When will it be done? Don't ask! How much will it cost? Who knows! It's going to be awesome, though!

But... you don't have to wait to see how powerful this weapons system is. The F-35 completely took out the Dutch government before one even rolled off the assembly line!

Note to governments: when ordering your weapons systems it may be a good idea to get a cost-per-unit quote before signing.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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post #7

All this technology just to kill people. It is a sad world we live in.

looking at the low tech - WWII style - war in Ukraine with a lot of civil population and property being hit, intentionally and unintentionally, i'd take high tech any time over it. For example when a full salvo (16) of unguided missiles (from "Uragan" system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-27_Uragan ) with 100Kg cluster warheads rains over the center of large city (Donetsk) ... i wish that US give Ukraine high-precis…

I'm not convinced that high tech war machinery precludes collateral damage - to use that stomach-churning phrase.

I appreciate your point on one hand - conventional weapons can be inaccurate and that can result in tragic, horrifying mistakes.

But, I'm not aware of any high tech war technology that explicitly tries to prevent risk of injury to non-combatants. The only thing that stops civilians from being fired on is the person on the other end with their finger on the trigger.

For example, in spite of the technology at hand, drone operators have made decisions based on misinformation or misinterpretation - resulting in the horrific murder of civilians.

A weapon is a weapon, and it can be easily used negligently - or malevolently. The Uragan example you mentioned is at least one of these.

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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post #7

All this technology just to kill people. It is a sad world we live in.

looking at the low tech - WWII style - war in Ukraine with a lot of civil population and property being hit, intentionally and unintentionally, i'd take high tech any time over it. For example when a full salvo (16) of unguided missiles (from "Uragan" system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-27_Uragan ) with 100Kg cluster warheads rains over the center of large city (Donetsk) ... i wish that US give Ukraine high-precis…

I wish the US go home instead of seeding war anywhere they go.

I visited Ukraine last month and one of the best things I saw was that war there was contained and "light" using mostly light weapons.

Russia probably has not the tech the US has, but Europe does, and Europe does not need a heavy nuclear war or loosing their main energy supplier(Russia).

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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For a defence company Lockheed Martin is actually a surprisingly good* player in the VR/AR community and they always have somewhat sane people at conferences etc. Interestingly they often mentioned fighter pilot helmets as the best state of the art AR technology but when asked about specifics the answer was usually..."classified, sorry" which I always thought was kind of sad.

They were quite involved in the Virtual World project which is open sourced: https://github.com/virtual-world-framework/vwf

*from my perspective as someone who thinks building weapons technology is pretty bad and something I'd never do personally

Re: The F-35's $400k helmet

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Lolz! Who does not recognize this article as complete propagandistic advertisement for a project completely over in time and budget that even fails competing with its competitors. Just besides that it's a weapon for killing people. Wake up.

That's still interesting technology-wise. I'm clearly not fond of military-related technology in principle, but that's an interesting piece of equipment nonetheless.

What does the context change in this case? That it is (or not) a propagandistic advertisement doesn't change the fact that it's an interesting technology.

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