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Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

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Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

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post #19

> A:During the beta period logs are kept for 24 hours, once beta is complete there will be no call log records. Is there a particular reason to do so during their beta?

Not associated with Ghost Call but my expectation is that they'd use the logs for debugging major bugs during the beta period. Kind of hard to identify and reproduce transient issues without those logs.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#22
post #19

> A:During the beta period logs are kept for 24 hours, once beta is complete there will be no call log records. Is there a particular reason to do so during their beta?

If logs include useful call information, then it might be useful for debugging purposes. Without a log, you'd have no idea what happened.

That said, that's just a guess.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#23
post #19

> A:During the beta period logs are kept for 24 hours, once beta is complete there will be no call log records. Is there a particular reason to do so during their beta?

If there are logs to be kept to begin with, I'd be very skeptical about any "anonymous" and "secure" claims. If it requires trust, then it isn't.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#24
post #19

> A:During the beta period logs are kept for 24 hours, once beta is complete there will be no call log records. Is there a particular reason to do so during their beta?

If there are logs to be kept to begin with, I'd be very skeptical about any "anonymous" and "secure" claims. If it requires trust, then it isn't.

Every computer has logs. If you interact with a server, you can't avoid it. Until we have decentralized apps, trust on this is unavoidable.

ZRTP and the sign-up process means it will be hard to connect the little metadata they have, so they've narrowed down the amount they're trusted with by a large margin

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#25

Anonymity is quite the growing market segment. And the NSA is as unpopular as ever. It's fascinating how the public responds to the government.

Is that true? I hear bitcoin is gaining market share, and it is the antithesis of anonymity.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#26
post #2

Site seems dead. Is it free software? What differentiates it from Signal/TS?

Ok on Tor but no https so anyone could get your number/password and steal your identity

http://hc3sz3i2rb5dljqq.onion/

Edit: my bad it's late...of course there is no risk of mitm as it's a tor service, so no risk of bad exit node -_-' sorry guys

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#27
post #25

Anonymity is quite the growing market segment. And the NSA is as unpopular as ever. It's fascinating how the public responds to the government.

Is that true? I hear bitcoin is gaining market share, and it is the antithesis of anonymity.

I think you are confusing anonymity with something else. Bitcoin is entirely anonymous, but all transactions are public. You can create as many wallets and keys as you want, and you don't have to tell anyone you own them.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there are logs to be kept to begin with, I'd be very skeptical about any "anonymous" and "secure" claims. If it requires trust, then it isn't.

Every computer has logs. If you interact with a server, you can't avoid it. Until we have decentralized apps, trust on this is unavoidable. ZRTP and the sign-up process means it will be hard to connect the little metadata they have, so they've narrowed down the amount they're trusted with by a large margin

Which is exactly my point. There shouldn't be anything for a 'server' to 'log'. If there is, then it's not anonymous, not 'secure' either depending on the definition you use, and it should not be advertised as such.

At best, it's pseudonymous.

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#29
post #13

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." I used to use this quote all the time too...until I realized it originally meant something entirely different. http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/14/how-the-world-butchered-ben...

I don't see how it means something entirely different. At most, Franklin and the other founding fathers had a more expansive notion of liberty than is now common. Both the sanctity of private property and the right to privacy are aspects of that sort of liberty.

I think the point is that the context is fundamentally different:

"In short, Franklin was not describing some tension between government power and individual liberty. He was describing, rather, effective self-government in the service of security as the very liberty it would be contemptible to trade. Notwithstanding the way the quotation has come down to us, Franklin saw the liberty and security interests of Pennsylvanians as aligned."

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-ben-franklin-really-...

Re: Ghost Call – Secure, Encrypted, Anonymous Calling

#30
post #6

Hm. I'm not sure I get it. (from the Google cache) > Q: Can I call any number I want? > A: No. Ghost Call can only call other Ghost Call numbers. > Q: How can we contact you? > A: You can email us at info@ghostcall.io, or Ghost Call us: (490)-628-2381 So it's a ZRTP SIP provider that uses regular phone number format as the identifier? It strikes me as rather much like OSTN/OSTel, but using a phone-number-looking iden…

Seems better than Skype.
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