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React Native is now open source

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Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by benologist »

kendallpark wrote: post #12
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

What would you suggest as a solution to this? What should Facebook do?

It's a near-certainty that any tech giant is going to have patent issues with any other tech giant, not bundling the consequences of this with their open source licenses would be a good start.

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by lordbusiness »

spicyj wrote: post #17
lordbusiness wrote: post #10

I'm very excited about this, but it's worth highlighting this from the FAQ: Q. Can I submit my own React Native app to the App Store? A. Not yet, but you will be able to soon. If you build something you want to submit to the App Store, come talk to us ASAP.

Oops, this was left over from our private beta. Removed now!

Ok now I'm even more excited!

Thanks! :-D

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by [deleted] »

kendallpark wrote: post #12
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

What would you suggest as a solution to this? What should Facebook do?

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Re: React Native is now open source

#25

Post by andrea_sdl »

kendallpark wrote: post #12
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

What would you suggest as a solution to this? What should Facebook do?

I'm curious too. :)

Re: React Native is now open source

#26

Post by plorkyeran »

jonhester wrote: post #14
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

So I guess you don't use any Apache licensed products at work either? Since the only reason Facebook added the PATENTS file is to keep the new BSD license in line with their old Apache license. http://www.apache.org/licenses/

Apache 2.0's license clause does not have an equivalent to "The license granted hereunder will terminate, automatically and without notice, for anyone that makes any claim (including by filing any lawsuit, assertion or other action) alleging [...] that any right in any patent claim of Facebook is invalid or unenforceable."), which is the problematic part as it means that you can't even defend yourself if Facebook sues you.

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by burke »

zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by Facebook… whether or not such claim is related to the Software.

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party if such claim arises… from any software, product or service of Facebook.

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party relating to the Software.

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] that any right in any patent claim of Facebook is invalid or unenforceable.

Wow.

Re: React Native is now open source

#28

Post by anfedorov »

kendallpark wrote: post #12
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

What would you suggest as a solution to this? What should Facebook do?

I am not a lawyer, but perhaps they could just skip the second paragraph? I understand the motivation behind discouraging people from suing you, but putting "you will not sue us for patent infringement" into a software license is a bit weird.

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by evv »

revskill wrote: post #18

How can i use Sqlite with react native?

There is currently no native module for SQLite, but you can build one if you want. :-D

http://facebook.github.io/react-native/docs/nativemodulesios...

We use a key-value store for most of our client-side persistence:

http://facebook.github.io/react-native/docs/asyncstorage.htm...

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by danschumann »

kendallpark wrote: post #12
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

What would you suggest as a solution to this? What should Facebook do?

It says if you get into a patent disagreement with their company you can no longer use react, whether they sue you, or you sue them. I'm not planning on suing facebook, but if they sue me, suddenly I have 2 problems, the lawsuit, and not being able to use react anymore.

It should only regard to react. If the clause is to protect their right to develop react, it should only pertain to such.

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