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Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Why don't they just use xylitol/isomalt or any of the other natural, calorie-free, nice tasting sugars? Presumably because they're expensive, but if sold in bulk I'm sure they could bring prices down acceptably...

I have also wondered why xylitol isn't used more. For example, in Korea there are major gum brands that are entirely xylitol based. Where as US gums are fractionally sweetened with xylitol.

Health Benefits of xylitol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol#Health_benefits

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Why don't they just use xylitol/isomalt or any of the other natural, calorie-free, nice tasting sugars? Presumably because they're expensive, but if sold in bulk I'm sure they could bring prices down acceptably...

As someone who has purchased bags of xylitol and added them to lemonade, tea, etc.:

It's because it tastes bad. Odd that any sugar could taste bad, but it's true. It's not _that_ expensive, but normal sugar is so cheap (not to mention HFCS, which has got to be even cheaper) that price is still a plausible issue. But more likely, the taste preferences of Americans is just so sweet that we can't appreciate xylitol as a sweetener.

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Is there any reason not to just use artificial sweeteners besides unfounded fears in the public? And would all this research money not be better spent on advertising and attempts to influence public perception?

Or even non-artificial, like stevia. We use it as a sweetener and it's pretty good. Or is there some regulatory barrier?

Coke Life is sweetened with Stevia, but I don't know how wide spread a distribution it has.

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Why don't they just use xylitol/isomalt or any of the other natural, calorie-free, nice tasting sugars? Presumably because they're expensive, but if sold in bulk I'm sure they could bring prices down acceptably...

High consumption of sugar alcohols causes GI upset in a lot of people, which is why you usually only see them used in small quantities (gum, mints, or non-edibles like toothpaste and mouthwash).

Russel-Stover makes sugar-free chocolates, peanut butter cups, and other confections that rely on sugar alcohols and sucralose to replace the missing sugar. They carry a warning on the bag that eating more than 3 pieces may cause diarrhea.

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Sweetener shenanigans that have gone on at the FDA: The Miracle Berry Conspiracy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/homaro-cantu/the-miracle-berry... http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-11-25/news... We might already have a better sweetener if it weren't for stuff like this.

Have you ever tried miracle berries? I have, in a demo they did for us at Cantu's restaurant. It's not a sweetener. It alters your sense of taste, for a fairly long period of time; it changes how everything tastes. It's really cool, and you should (if you haven't already) order some and play with them yourself. It's hard to see how they'd displace aspartame, though.

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Is there any reason not to just use artificial sweeteners besides unfounded fears in the public? And would all this research money not be better spent on advertising and attempts to influence public perception?

>Is there any reason not to just use artificial sweeteners besides unfounded fears in the public? artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and promote weight gain http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm... Aspartame and depression: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8373935 SURVEY OF ASPARTAME STUDIES: CORRELATION OF OUTCOME AND FUNDING SOURCES http://www.dorway.com/peerrev.html >And would all th…

> artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and promote weight gain

I do not see evidence or argument in your link to support your summary. The closest I found was mention of a large observational study where people that were observed to became fatter used more sugar substitute. The difference between the groups of +2lbs was statistically significant, but seems irrelevant given the obvious observational confound of people that gain weight also switching to substitutes to reduce calorie intake.

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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Sweetener shenanigans that have gone on at the FDA: The Miracle Berry Conspiracy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/homaro-cantu/the-miracle-berry... http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-11-25/news... We might already have a better sweetener if it weren't for stuff like this.

Have you ever tried miracle berries? I have, in a demo they did for us at Cantu's restaurant. It's not a sweetener. It alters your sense of taste, for a fairly long period of time; it changes how everything tastes. It's really cool, and you should (if you haven't already) order some and play with them yourself. It's hard to see how they'd displace aspartame, though.

I've always wanted to try those, but at first I couldn't decide to order in some online shop, and next time I looked the shop had closed.

I think they wrote something about not being allowed to sell miracle berries in the EU, because it was categorized as some dietary supplement or so, without the necessary certifications.

Re: Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

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This is probably a crazy idea: drink less soda. When it comes to pop, I usually stick to cola - and when it's cola I'll never buy it unless it is made with real cane sugar. Boom, potential side effects of artificial sweeteners are gone, and the drink tastes way better. And just drink more water. Why is this so hard for people?

You're ignoring all the well-known health hazards of consuming sugar/corn syrup that aren't present in zero-calorie substitutes. Do you even understand why the substitutes exist? Your comment suggests you don't.

It is you who is misinformed.
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