The paradigm of woman as private property has been losing popularity, obviously. We have to recognize that the "newer" constructions of womanhood are not necessarily positive.
An Economic Model of the Rise in Premarital Sex and Its De-Stigmatization [pdf]
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#22> There are 14 parameter values to determine, {β, ϕ, ζ, γ, δ, θ, ι, ω, μ, α, τ, λ, η, σ}. Using Greek letters may follow in the economics tradition, but it is a pain for humans who need to match up symbols with concepts.
Using easily readable/recognizable variable names is one thing computer programmers got right. It's always frustrating to read mathematic or economic models that use symbols instead. I'm sure there's a good reason for it, but I haven't heard it yet.
I've read some computation-heavy processing using long-form variable names in code and it's not actually readable.
For parameter passing, long-form names make sense. For actual math? Not so much.
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#23The paradigm of woman as private property has been losing popularity, obviously. We have to recognize that the "newer" constructions of womanhood are not necessarily positive.
You seem to be implying that woman-as-property was better than what we have today. Presumably that is not what you meant. Perhaps an edit to clarify?
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#24The paradigm of woman as private property has been losing popularity, obviously. We have to recognize that the "newer" constructions of womanhood are not necessarily positive.
You seem to be implying that woman-as-property was better than what we have today. Presumably that is not what you meant. Perhaps an edit to clarify?
At the risk of being lambasted as a misogynist, I think he's referring to the current trend towards an informal return to harems, where a majority of women court a minority of men, and vice-versa. That just has to do with how we humans are naturally polygamous creatures and the sexual revolution has gotten rid of a lot of the societal factors keeping people in strict monogamy.
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#25Interesting stuff, it's clear from this economics perspective that sexual behavior is tightly coupled to risks and societal influence. As birth control became more available, the risk of premarital sex went down dramatically. I think societal norms are slowly catching up with this, hence why "we" (i.e. Western nations) are more liberal now than say 70 years ago. Here's a related thought experiment: could ever increas…
I agree with you but would quibble on one thing "women are about as financially independent as men"... I would say that women are about 70-80% as financially independent as men, due to the gender pay gap. That gap is even higher if you consider women's under representation in high paying jobs (e.g. tech). However... That's light years better the past when women were essentially considered to be the property of their…
> I would say that women are about 70-80% as financially independent as men, due to the gender pay gap.
That pay gap is for all women, not unmarried women. Young unmarried women living in cities generally make more money than men.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a response, marriage rates over time: https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+rates+over+time&sou...
the demonstrated decreasing marriage rate does not support the premise that divorce rates are increasing. is your response relevant in some other way?
Divorce rates would tend to decrease if marriage rates decrease. Can't divorce if you aren't married.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're going to name figures I think you ought to cite sources rather than just guessing.
He's alluding to the old 77% canard which has already been debunked. There's no pay gap between genders, the pay gap is between women who never married and women who have married at some point regardless of present status. Something else he gets wrong is this "under representation in high paying jobs" canard. That's bad approximation again. The under-representation is in thing-oriented jobs versus relationship-orient…
I'm assuming you're being downvoted for your flippant response, but you raise a good point.
I can't find the source, but an article was laying out that despite all of the social benefits offered to women in Scandinavian countries (child care, generous time off, etc) a lot of women were choosing not to work. That obviously skews the "pay gap".
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#28> There are 14 parameter values to determine, {β, ϕ, ζ, γ, δ, θ, ι, ω, μ, α, τ, λ, η, σ}. Using Greek letters may follow in the economics tradition, but it is a pain for humans who need to match up symbols with concepts.
Using easily readable/recognizable variable names is one thing computer programmers got right. It's always frustrating to read mathematic or economic models that use symbols instead. I'm sure there's a good reason for it, but I haven't heard it yet.
If you use the symbols that are used, frequently, you get better at using them. It's much like the way if you play a round of golf at a course that you're unfamiliar with, it's a lot harder to recall a shot-by-shot recap of your round than if you play the course regularly. The mind builds little registers for keeping track of the meanings of Greek letters if you use those little friends often enough.
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#29Interesting stuff, it's clear from this economics perspective that sexual behavior is tightly coupled to risks and societal influence. As birth control became more available, the risk of premarital sex went down dramatically. I think societal norms are slowly catching up with this, hence why "we" (i.e. Western nations) are more liberal now than say 70 years ago. Here's a related thought experiment: could ever increas…
I agree with you but would quibble on one thing "women are about as financially independent as men"... I would say that women are about 70-80% as financially independent as men, due to the gender pay gap. That gap is even higher if you consider women's under representation in high paying jobs (e.g. tech). However... That's light years better the past when women were essentially considered to be the property of their…
The gender pay gap is a myth. Even major publications refute it http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-tha... http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240527023035327045794837...
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to be implying that woman-as-property was better than what we have today. Presumably that is not what you meant. Perhaps an edit to clarify?
At the risk of being lambasted as a misogynist, I think he's referring to the current trend towards an informal return to harems, where a majority of women court a minority of men, and vice-versa. That just has to do with how we humans are naturally polygamous creatures and the sexual revolution has gotten rid of a lot of the societal factors keeping people in strict monogamy.
> strict monogamy
Honored more in the breach than the observance, in many households.