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Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

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I'm so bummed about this. We choose Balanced for www.seedwise.com specifically for its per order escrow feature. We'll be missing that in Stripe as we move over.

You can fully control the transfer schedule for any recipient with Stripe -- I think this should do what you want. (Feel free to drop us an email if you're having trouble; I'm patrick@stripe.com.)

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#22

Sad to hear this news. I had a wonderful time at Balanced. Payments is a very, very hard space, business-wise. All my best to my former co-workers.

ACH(Balanced) is unprofitable if it doesn't have massive volume (fixed$/trans) . CC(Stripe) is more profitable - %rates are toggled.

As a former employee, it would be bad form to respond to speculation by a 4 minute old HN account about the specifics here, so I will not.

I'm not sure why you say Balanced(ACH) and Stripe(CC) when both do both, though.

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#24
The problem is that Stripe requires sub merchants to create an account as well. Whereas Balanced, the account process was part of the API so your customers stayed in your application. That's going to be the biggest blow to the UI.

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#27
Huge win for Stripe. As a technical lead, I will (personally) never rely on smaller players for payment processing from this point forward. This just cost our engineering team three weeks of work, when we were debating just transitioning an old product to Stripe to begin with. We decided to stick with balanced.

Stripe has now certainly solidified a dominant market position.

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#28

Was worried about this for some time. They didn't support major third party shopping carts and ignored Github support tickets for months on end despite IRC help staff suggesting to submit them. They had great payout rules but when Stripe cut down on those times... Balanced was in a bad spot. Happy to see they will transition smoothly to an industry leader, even if their platforms aren't even close to being the same.

It's such a shame. They had a really good way of working. Their open API and product roadmap on Github was awesome. They had future plans for cryptocurrency and foreign markets. Their API worked beautifully.

The only reason they've said is that they weren't big enough to be as innovative as they wanted.

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#29

The problem is that Stripe requires sub merchants to create an account as well. Whereas Balanced, the account process was part of the API so your customers stayed in your application. That's going to be the biggest blow to the UI.

Stripe has end to end white labeled marketplace features as well. https://stripe.com/us/marketplaces

Re: Balanced payments is shutting down

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ACH(Balanced) is unprofitable if it doesn't have massive volume (fixed$/trans) . CC(Stripe) is more profitable - %rates are toggled.

As a former employee, it would be bad form to respond to speculation by a 4 minute old HN account about the specifics here, so I will not. I'm not sure why you say Balanced(ACH) and Stripe(CC) when both do both, though.

Profitable companies don't shut down. Also it's not unusual for ACH processor to shut down. it's difficult. they certainly lasted longer than the any startup in the "old boys" space. Stripe will ingest it, has the buffer for the bad margins and will crush the old boys space. this is a good thing. didn't mean to offend.
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