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Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by unalone » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 12:53 AM UTC

toadstone wrote: post #20

unalone wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define equality. There're a lot of versions of the word that I don't support. Peace, now, there's an idea I can get behind, impossible as it might seem.

Equal in rights and opportunity, ok? I'm not proposing the kind of enforced universal mediocrity that I know you hacker news ubermensch are paranoid of. Of course everyone wants peace. The oppressed want a peace that is an end to injustice. The oppressor wants a peace where the oppressed will just shut up and take it.

I wasn't talking about that. I also didn't know there was a Hacker News ubermensch.

"Equal in rights and opportunity" still doesn't mean much. How can Facebook enforce equal opportunities? And everybody on Facebook is equal. So you're still dealing with a nebulous term.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by madh » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 1:00 AM UTC

n-named wrote: post #7

After seeing MZ at startup school, it was apparent that he is a big thinker. I didn't think this big though. Brilliant!

"The next hundred years will be different for advertising, and it starts today."

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by toadstone » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 1:08 AM UTC

unalone wrote: post #21

toadstone wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equal in rights and opportunity, ok? I'm not proposing the kind of enforced universal mediocrity that I know you hacker news ubermensch are paranoid of. Of course everyone wants peace. The oppressed want a peace that is an end to injustice. The oppressor wants a peace where the oppressed will just shut up and take it.

I wasn't talking about that. I also didn't know there was a Hacker News ubermensch. "Equal in rights and opportunity" still doesn't mean much. How can Facebook enforce equal opportunities? And everybody on Facebook is equal. So you're still dealing with a nebulous term.

Well, they aren't campaigning for peace ON Facebook, so I don't see why you think this is about equality in facebook itself. I don't see why equal in rights and opportunity is nebulous either. If you look at one of the contrasts on peace.facebook.com, Israel and Palestine, it's pretty obvious that the two populations are not equal in rights or opportunities and that this is the reason for the current strife in that region.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by amohr » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 2:03 AM UTC

Also, http://peace.stanford.edu/ launched about 30 seconds ago. It has a list of all the other participating Peace Innovation sites.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by unalone » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 2:08 AM UTC

madh wrote: post #22

n-named wrote: post #7

After seeing MZ at startup school, it was apparent that he is a big thinker. I didn't think this big though. Brilliant!

"The next hundred years will be different for advertising, and it starts today."

And he was right. Facebook's policy of uniquely targeted ads is unlike anything else on the market, and it will be the future of advertising. It's killer.

Advertising doesn't just change every hundred years, but if you don't think Facebook is one of the two Great Advertisers of the decade, along with Google, then you weren't paying attention.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by unalone » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 2:12 AM UTC

toadstone wrote: post #23

unalone wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn't talking about that. I also didn't know there was a Hacker News ubermensch. "Equal in rights and opportunity" still doesn't mean much. How can Facebook enforce equal opportunities? And everybody on Facebook is equal. So you're still dealing with a nebulous term.

Well, they aren't campaigning for peace ON Facebook, so I don't see why you think this is about equality in facebook itself. I don't see why equal in rights and opportunity is nebulous either. If you look at one of the contrasts on peace.facebook.com, Israel and Palestine, it's pretty obvious that the two populations are not equal in rights or opportunities and that this is the reason for the current strife in that r…

But if Facebook were to speak out actively in favor of either side, it would alienate the other side, which goes actively AGAINST Facebook's mission.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by iterationx » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 2:27 AM UTC

war is created by the minority in power. not by the majority that uses facebook.

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy..." Herman Goering

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by madh » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 3:07 AM UTC

unalone wrote: post #25

madh wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The next hundred years will be different for advertising, and it starts today."

And he was right. Facebook's policy of uniquely targeted ads is unlike anything else on the market, and it will be the future of advertising. It's killer. Advertising doesn't just change every hundred years, but if you don't think Facebook is one of the two Great Advertisers of the decade, along with Google, then you weren't paying attention.

I agree with you. The kid thinks big.

Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 3:27 AM UTC

toadstone wrote: post #16

I'd rather see a campaign for equality. That's not so bland and gets more to the heart of the matter.

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Re: Peace.facebook.com

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Post by theli0nheart » Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 3:30 AM UTC

tsally wrote: post #2

1.) Was engaging and interesting at startup school? Check. 2.) Cool company initiative that I can respect? Check. I think Zuckerberg might finally be growing into his own. :)

As amohr posted, this is actually a Stanford initiative, not something that Facebook started. Regardless, I think it's a great idea, but we should be giving credit where it's due.

http://peace.stanford.edu/