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Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by SeanDav » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

toddsiegel wrote: post #17

I've kept Flash around for the oddball site here and there that still requires it, but this week I decided to uninstall rather than patch it[1]. [1] - https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa1...

I like to unwind occasionally with browser based flash games so this is not an option for me.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

xooyoozoo wrote: post #4

nailer wrote: post #2

Excellent. It's always been weird having a mobile device run YouTube more responsively than an GBP1500 laptop because the latter had to run the Flash plugin.

If your browser supports VP9, that will be forced whenever possible. I'm not sure if switching to CPU-only video decode will be a net gain for most.

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Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by jfb » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

Well, now I can delete Chrome.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by dmunoz » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

tatterdemalion wrote: post #11

Hooray! I delete all cookies on session end and I don't have flash installed. Having to remember to go to youtube.com/html5 every time I start a new session has been frustrating. Also, the HTML5 player has a nice feature to change the rate at which the video plays, which makes watching long talks a lot easier.

I much prefer to have the option exposed in the UI, but you can do this with any HTML5 video element by setting the video element's playbackRate. Often, it's as easy as 'document.getElementsByTagName('video')[0].playbackRate = 1.5'. I have a bookmarklet that does exactly this, so I love to see HTML5 video being the default more and more.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by higherpurpose » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:58 PM UTC

free2rhyme214 wrote: post #3

Steve Jobs predicted this in 2010 - https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

Having one of the most popular platforms in the world not accept Flash kind of helped that "prediction" a little bit.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by micampe » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:58 PM UTC

tosseraccount wrote: post #8

free2rhyme214 wrote: post #3

Steve Jobs predicted this in 2010 - https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

Steve may have been a tad unrepresentative that "open video" issue. Remember, this is the guy that controlled QuickTime and never opened it up. That was a bit of problem for open video supporters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

This comment originally read: ”From the guy that tried to force QuickTime on us?”, and that was the comment I was responding to.

Also, the events described in your link all took place while Jobs was not at Apple.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by Grazester » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 8:59 PM UTC

HTML 5 videos on youtube take forever to start for me and would just stay at a buffering screen when I use the seekbar. This is in Chrome. I haven't tried another browser but it has made my youtube experience terrible compared to what is use to be with Flash.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by simlevesque » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

jfb wrote: post #23

Well, now I can delete Chrome.

I fail to see the relation between the OP and your message.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by epistasis » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

_ea1k wrote: post #13

free2rhyme214 wrote: post #3

Steve Jobs predicted this in 2010 - https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

So did anyone with a pulse. :) The only part that garnered widespread opposition was the sixth point ("the most important reason"). Apple later reversed course on that particular position.

There were an awful lot of people, with hot blood and full pulses, that objected to things other than the sixth point. I think it was a mixture of several types of people, among these one type perhaps being those that would object to anything Steve Jobs said, and another type perhaps being those that had never experienced the misery of Flash on non-Windows platforms.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by tosseraccount » Tue, Jan 27, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

tosseraccount wrote: post #8

free2rhyme214 wrote: post #3

Steve Jobs predicted this in 2010 - https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

Steve may have been a tad unrepresentative that "open video" issue. Remember, this is the guy that controlled QuickTime and never opened it up. That was a bit of problem for open video supporters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

From Apple itself ...

"proprietary acceleration techniques"

http://web.archive.org/web/20010605082836/www.pa.msu.edu/~ha...