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Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by UserRights »

But who will ever again trust an US company with private group communication after they put so much effort into converting into a salafist-stalinist-stasi-like surveillance state and after such a long time of the Snowden revelations there is still no real sign of the US people, the companies and the communities are able to get rid of their mentally distorted secret dictators?

It is such a shame. A nation that was the synonym for freedom is now the world role model for how a postmodern dictatorship looks like. Please, all you freedomlovers, finally wake up and change it, I do not see any sane alternative than reverting USA back to a free country...

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by danso »

About 4 years ago, I was chatting with a journalist via Twitter and when we had to discuss details, he told me, "I don't check my email, just DM me"...which profoundly annoyed me. Now, I have to admit, if someone DM's me, I almost always immediately respond. Part of it is because DMs, for me, still pale in quantity compared to emails, so I naturally notice them faster. I think it also works because of why Twitter works overall...the truncated message length is both an impediment to communication and a lowering-of-friction...unlike email, I don't feel like I have to come up with a well-composed or complete response...nor should the DMer expect more of me (or else they should've gone through email).

So the group DMing makes sense...it's not an innovation, but continues to keep people in the Twitter system. Their photo app functionality had been crap for awhile, but between the extra steps needed to go through Instagram (nevermind the lack of previews), the photo app is just good enough to entice the user to not leave the Twitter app.

I'm surprised they haven't tried to implement Snapchat-like functionality, frankly.

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by PStamatiou »

strict9 wrote: post #6

And yet still the worst photo sharing experience of any social platform. 5mb upload limit, constant upload failures with cryptic error messages, and clicking an image only to see a smaller version aren't a great experience. I'm skeptical of what they'll do with video. edit: lack of retina support for images is also inexcusable.

Let me know what you think of Twitter Video on iOS/Android once you get it. (I'm the designer on Twitter Video)

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by Cbeck527 »

rscott wrote: post #18
dewey wrote: post #2

With the speed they are shipping updates for the official mac app it should be possible to use the group messaging in about 2 years.

And yet it's still one of the best Twitter clients on any platform. Thank you, Loren Britchter.

Have you used Tweetbot?

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by naoru »

Cbeck527 wrote: post #24
rscott wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet it's still one of the best Twitter clients on any platform. Thank you, Loren Britchter.

Have you used Tweetbot?

Oops, Tweetbot is kill. Something something API limits developer love walled garden.

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by frostmatthew »

strict9 wrote: post #6

And yet still the worst photo sharing experience of any social platform. 5mb upload limit, constant upload failures with cryptic error messages, and clicking an image only to see a smaller version aren't a great experience. I'm skeptical of what they'll do with video. edit: lack of retina support for images is also inexcusable.

> clicking an image only to see a smaller version

I feel Twitter's UI has always been pretty sensible - but I've always been baffled by this quirk.

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by frostmatthew »

webwanderings wrote: post #4

A long, long time ago, email was invented. Then soon enough, someone created email lists (groups). No one has invented anything new in this regard, since then.

"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by rcraft »

forgueam wrote: post #11
kmfrk wrote: post #3

Are group DMs supported through the API for third-party clients? The direct capture and upload has been sorely needed, should make on-the-ground reporting much easier.

There is a third-party service called GroupTweet that has been doing something similar for years... http://www.grouptweet.com Curious how this will affect their service.

Group DMs are not yet available through the API. Its not clear if/when they will make Group DMs available via the API.

As for GroupTweet, only a small subset of our users use GroupTweet for Group DM type purposes. I'm optimistic that this native functionality will educate the masses on the possibilities of Twitter Group DM's which will lead "power users" to look to GroupTweet to provide a more "full featured" group DM experience.

Working on a blog post to illustrate the GroupTweet advantages, but things like:

1) A GroupTweet Group DM account is permanent compared to a more ephemeral Group DM thread. No need to figure out who to add to the conversation each time, etc.

2) Never lose your messages. Full archival capabilities & storage with a GroupTweet Group DM account. Twitter will only display your 100 most recent DM conversations.

3) No limit on number of group members vs Twitter's native Group DM limit of 20 people.

4) Full control over who is included the the Group DM. With Twitter's native functionality, any group member can invite anyone else into the conversation. With GroupTweet, the group admin(s) have full control over who is allowed in the group, who has posting privileges vs read-only, etc.

5) With a GroupTweet group DM account, you get all the advantages of a full fledged Twitter account. Things like Twitter analytics, GroupTweet contributor analytics (which members are participating & sending the best messages), downloading your Tweet history, linkable messages, etc.

6) More customizable notifications. Not all or nothing approach for regular DMs.

7) GroupTweet Group DM's will work with every Twitter client. If you try and start a Group DM with your friends that are using Tweetbot, Hootsuite, or any other third party twitter client, they won't receive the message.

Here's my post from earlier this month re: creating a GroupTweet Group DM account: http://grouptweet.com/blog/how-to-create-private-twitter-gro...

Re: Now on Twitter: Group direct messages and mobile video camera

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Post by rscott »

Cbeck527 wrote: post #24
rscott wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet it's still one of the best Twitter clients on any platform. Thank you, Loren Britchter.

Have you used Tweetbot?

I use it on iOS and love it, but didn't feel like paying $20 for a Twitter client on the desktop.
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