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Why Saving is for Suckers

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Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

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Right, because the SUCKERS like me who spend far less than they earn and keep their money in a savings account with the highest interest rate they can find (at essentially NO risk) were hurt so badly last time the economy crashed. Right?

Which is better, to live wealthy with high risk or to live poorly with little risk? Sure you can make out good when the economy crashes (which is rare) but in the meantime (while things are good) those taking high risks are sure enjoying themselves. Remember; it's just money, you can always make more, try to enjoy yourself a little bit while you have it and don't wall yourself off from the world just to keep what lit…

Having a savings account lets you do some really amazing things, though. I quit my full-time job as of last Friday (although they retained me as a consultant for part-time remote work), and will spending the next year or two (a) focusing on my new company, and (b) traveling.

Having the freedom to make that happen, especially when nearly everybody around me is burdened by debt, is incredibly valuable. I couldn't do this if I had spent all my money on 'enjoying' myself all the time.

True, you shouldn't wall yourself off from the world, but at the same time, spending every penny you earn, when you earn it, is just folly.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

#23
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Right. Putting all your eggs in one basket is for suckers. Keep some of your eggs in the fridge. They won't hatch many chickens, but they're unlikely to get eaten by foxes, either. Nothing to see here. Move along.

That's not what the article says. It says you have to deliberately move your eggs around according to the business cycle. A pure cash investing strategy (money market, CD, T-Bill/Bond) now has a track record as good as the US stock market over 30 year periods. Except the much lower volatility of cash makes it superior. Plowing money into stock indexes is for suckers. To get any decent returns one is forced to analyze…

Selling your stock at the top of the market then sitting on cash until the bottom before piling back in is hardly the insight of the century.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

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post #23

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That's not what the article says. It says you have to deliberately move your eggs around according to the business cycle. A pure cash investing strategy (money market, CD, T-Bill/Bond) now has a track record as good as the US stock market over 30 year periods. Except the much lower volatility of cash makes it superior. Plowing money into stock indexes is for suckers. To get any decent returns one is forced to analyze…

Selling your stock at the top of the market then sitting on cash until the bottom before piling back in is hardly the insight of the century.

You will not get reasonable inflation adjusted returns unless you do this to some extent. You cannot get returns without periodically re-balancing between equities, cash, and commodities, and different currencies.

There is no free lunch. You can't plow money into a simple "diversified" portfolio and do OK. Yet inflation forces you to play the game or lose.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

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post #21

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Which is better, to live wealthy with high risk or to live poorly with little risk? Sure you can make out good when the economy crashes (which is rare) but in the meantime (while things are good) those taking high risks are sure enjoying themselves. Remember; it's just money, you can always make more, try to enjoy yourself a little bit while you have it and don't wall yourself off from the world just to keep what lit…

Having a savings account lets you do some really amazing things, though. I quit my full-time job as of last Friday (although they retained me as a consultant for part-time remote work), and will spending the next year or two (a) focusing on my new company, and (b) traveling. Having the freedom to make that happen, especially when nearly everybody around me is burdened by debt, is incredibly valuable. I couldn't do th…

Congratulations and all the best!

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

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Gold seems to continue to drop in price, even as we print paper money. It's possible that debt is more valuable than yellow-colored metal coins. (Gold does not have a lot more intrinsic value than anything else. If the economy collapses, will people be willing to buy your chunks of metal? Why?)

> Gold seems to continue to drop in price Huh? Gold (and commodity metals in general) has been the trade of the decade. > Gold does not have a lot more intrinsic value than anything else. You can go any time in history any where in the world and buy a decent suit with an ounce of gold. Gold has always preserved wealth in the long run. Not true of any other asset class. Everybody should be at least a few percent in go…

Past performance is not indicative of future returns.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

#27

Right, because the SUCKERS like me who spend far less than they earn and keep their money in a savings account with the highest interest rate they can find (at essentially NO risk) were hurt so badly last time the economy crashed. Right?

Which is better, to live wealthy with high risk or to live poorly with little risk? Sure you can make out good when the economy crashes (which is rare) but in the meantime (while things are good) those taking high risks are sure enjoying themselves. Remember; it's just money, you can always make more, try to enjoy yourself a little bit while you have it and don't wall yourself off from the world just to keep what lit…

Money is freedom. Having money in the bank is freedom.

Spending lots of money is the opposite of freedom, at least for me. I'm glad I have small expenses and monthly payments, because I value my financial security and freedom a lot more than shiny gadgets.

It might be a cliché, but I'd rather not become a slave to the things I own.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

#28

Maybe the headline should be: "Why Doing Nothing But Saving is for Suckers"

I agree. I fear that many people will read that headline and say, "yeah, banks suck, I am going to go buy a flat-panel TV".

Then when a crisis strikes, they will default on their loans and I will have to pay higher taxes and higher interest rates on borrowed money. Wait, the author is right, saving is for suckers...

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

#29
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I agree with your sentiment. I also keep quite a bit of money in cash, but these days I'm keeping less so since it seems likely we'll have high inflation in our future, given how much money is being printed. I've moved most of it to gold or silver.

Gold seems to continue to drop in price, even as we print paper money. It's possible that debt is more valuable than yellow-colored metal coins. (Gold does not have a lot more intrinsic value than anything else. If the economy collapses, will people be willing to buy your chunks of metal? Why?)

> Gold seems to continue to drop in price, even as we print paper money.

In the real world it's done the opposite. Golds gone up in value as we've printed more money.

Re: Why Saving is for Suckers

#30
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a savings account lets you do some really amazing things, though. I quit my full-time job as of last Friday (although they retained me as a consultant for part-time remote work), and will spending the next year or two (a) focusing on my new company, and (b) traveling. Having the freedom to make that happen, especially when nearly everybody around me is burdened by debt, is incredibly valuable. I couldn't do th…

Congratulations and all the best!

Thanks!
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