GWT just got a new look • Hacker News Board

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by prohor » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:42 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #3

Gah! Again! People not explaining what something is on the landing page! > GWT is used by many products at Google, including Google AdWords and Google Wallet. It's open source, completely free, and used by thousands of enthusiastic developers around the world. Any amount of things fit that description. Beer? Air? Clicking "Learn about GWT" gets you this: > GWT is a development toolkit for building and optimizing comp…

I wonder though, why they don't mention the latest Google Inbox, which is also done in GWT.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by raverbashing » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:42 AM UTC

Seems to me the textbook example of Java people trying to make everything Java (and failing at it, as usual)

While it's funny (and sometimes silly) to see a huge amount of .js libraries popping up, they're not adding a big block between the programmer and the browser.

And js may have its quirks, but it's not java and I'm thankful for that. I'd rather use js over java anyday, unless there's something really dependent on it.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by Djorak_ » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:43 AM UTC

jamies888888 wrote: post #6

I've never knowingly seen GWT used in practice. Does anyone have any examples of (semi) notable websites utilising it?

I worked for a big French bank for a few months about 3 years ago and they were using it on a few of their projects (CRM, budget planner).

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by Nitramp » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:44 AM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #15

jamies888888 wrote: post #6

I've never knowingly seen GWT used in practice. Does anyone have any examples of (semi) notable websites utilising it?

According to an HN comment by user cromwellian, it's widely used inside Google including the new Inbox mail app: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8554339 Other references mentioned by the poster are "Apple (iAds Workspace), Amazon (AWS Console), Nike".

Though it's worth noting that Inbox and similar properties do not use it for UI code, but only (exclusively) for business logic below the UI layer. UI code is written in pure JavaScript/Closure.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by mradmin » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:45 AM UTC

GWT pronounced «gwit»

Seriously? First I've heard this is how you pronounce it. And how does one pronounce gwit? I think I'll continue to call it: G.W.T.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by prohor » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:46 AM UTC

polskibus wrote: post #11

I've never used GWT, but it looks a lot like ASP.NET (all the button declarations in code, heavy page lifecycle in code, etc.). Can anyone with ASP.NET knowledge comment on that? ASP.NET has many problems, there are valid reasons why most developers are moving towards ASP.NET MVC so I wonder what is the place for GWT in modern web dev.

First difference is that ASP.NET is running on the server side. GWT is fully compiled to JavaScript and runs in browser. The server doesn't even need to be Java, can be even plain web server without server side code. With GWT you typically develop one-page web applications.

As of doing everything in code - not necessary. As of now GWT has UiBinder - it is a kind of template or DOM + widgets, where you then bind code to it. But in upcoming 3.0 it will use web components standard (http://www.w3.org/TR/components-intro/)

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by lmm » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:52 AM UTC

Nitramp wrote: post #24

pavlov wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to an HN comment by user cromwellian, it's widely used inside Google including the new Inbox mail app: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8554339 Other references mentioned by the poster are "Apple (iAds Workspace), Amazon (AWS Console), Nike".

Though it's worth noting that Inbox and similar properties do not use it for UI code, but only (exclusively) for business logic below the UI layer. UI code is written in pure JavaScript/Closure.

Huh? I didn't know GWT had any non-UI functionality.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by insin » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:54 AM UTC

mradmin wrote: post #25

GWT pronounced «gwit» Seriously? First I've heard this is how you pronounce it. And how does one pronounce gwit? I think I'll continue to call it: G.W.T.

First I've heard of this too.

Obviously "gwit" is pronounced as "jwit", right?

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by bvm » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:55 AM UTC

jamies888888 wrote: post #6

I've never knowingly seen GWT used in practice. Does anyone have any examples of (semi) notable websites utilising it?

Moreover Newsdesk, a reasonably large media monitoring platform is pretty much solely based on GWT, though it looks like they are moving away from it in their new development.

Re: GWT just got a new look

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Post by prohor » Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 9:55 AM UTC

jamies888888 wrote: post #6

I've never knowingly seen GWT used in practice. Does anyone have any examples of (semi) notable websites utilising it?

Some other lists:

- http://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Web-Toolkit - but this might be seriously underestimated, as they are not able to detect services accessible after login, where GWT is mostly used.