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#21
I am always utterly amazed by the level of incarceration in the US. Here is one of the 'top' country in the world, whatever metric you use for stable western democracies, and yet, a huge proportion of its population is spending or has spent some time incarcerated.

Whatever explanation is given, it seems unfathomable that a democratic country could end-up with higher incarceration rates than the worse dictatorships.

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#23
Nice website!

An improvement to the website would be a CDN (faster loading of images) and using 'infinite scroll' to load all (~4000) images.

One can use a piece of js to only load images in the viewport.

Could also add a small placeholder text shown (instead of black) before the image is loaded. E.g. the coordinates, or county/state, or the size of the facility in square meters (or yards or whatever).

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#24
I am not sure how many HNers have watched The Interview. But at point Kim John Un points that that America has an higher incarnation rate than North Korea - They brushed it off in the movie But I still think about it.

How can the world's proudest democracy answer the simple question that Kim John Un poised ?

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i wonder if it actually costs more to imprison those inmates than the value destruction they would've caused had they not been imprisoned. $70 billion is a massive amount that is just going down the drain, for next to no societal value. thats approx $350 per person per year!

$70bil/2.2mil works out @ $31,818 There is societal value to housing criminals that pose a danger to society. I'm more than happy to have psychopaths locked away from my life. The question is how many of these people are actually dangerous, or would remain dangerous given some basic education and/or life support.

> The question is how many of these people are actually dangerous, or would remain dangerous given some basic education and/or life support.

"He who opens a school door, closes a prison." - Victor Hugo

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I am not sure how many HNers have watched The Interview. But at point Kim John Un points that that America has an higher incarnation rate than North Korea - They brushed it off in the movie But I still think about it. How can the world's proudest democracy answer the simple question that Kim John Un poised ?

Well to start with, it's a very misleading comparison. Every single person in North Korea is in prison. Just because most of them are not behind bars doesn't mean they are not prisoners. By contrast, Americans only (largely, overwhelmingly) end up in prison if they break laws (false convictions are statistically rare). We have too many laws, to be sure, and that is a problem we need to address, but no one would seriously believe that America's standard for imprisonment is lower than North Korea's.

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#27

Nice website! An improvement to the website would be a CDN (faster loading of images) and using 'infinite scroll' to load all (~4000) images. One can use a piece of js to only load images in the viewport. Could also add a small placeholder text shown (instead of black) before the image is loaded. E.g. the coordinates, or county/state, or the size of the facility in square meters (or yards or whatever).

Please stop encouraging people to use infinite scroll, it is a scourge to be eradicated.

In any case you think infinite scroll would be useful, what you really want is a link at the bottom of the page that says "elements per page: 25 | 50 | 250 | unlimited". Infinite scroll makes it painful to reach the end of a large list on a machine with low memory. It deprives the user of the ability to record your place in the list if you want to come back tomorrow (or switch to another device or restart your computer etc. etc.), or send a link to someone else. It breaks the web.

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#28

I am not sure how many HNers have watched The Interview. But at point Kim John Un points that that America has an higher incarnation rate than North Korea - They brushed it off in the movie But I still think about it. How can the world's proudest democracy answer the simple question that Kim John Un poised ?

Most of the prisoners in America are there for drug related reasons. North Korea doesn't enforce drugs as much. 40-50% of the population is addicted to meth.

America does have far fewer innocents and political prisoners. If you question Obama your whole family won't get thrown in jail for 3 generations.

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#29

I am not sure how many HNers have watched The Interview. But at point Kim John Un points that that America has an higher incarnation rate than North Korea - They brushed it off in the movie But I still think about it. How can the world's proudest democracy answer the simple question that Kim John Un poised ?

Well to start with, it's a very misleading comparison. Every single person in North Korea is in prison. Just because most of them are not behind bars doesn't mean they are not prisoners. By contrast, Americans only (largely, overwhelmingly) end up in prison if they break laws (false convictions are statistically rare). We have too many laws, to be sure, and that is a problem we need to address, but no one would serio…

> By contrast, Americans only (largely, overwhelmingly) end up in prison if they break laws

How is that a productive distinction when the problem (as you admit) is that there are too many laws which are too vague and too broad? "You only go to prison if you break the law" is useless consolation if it's not possible for generally honest people to live their lives without breaking the law. It causes enforcement to be at the whim of the government. You're already a criminal, so whether you go to jail is based on whether they decide to prosecute you. Which is clearly not entirely based on whether you committed a crime.

> false convictions are statistically rare

How do you even propose to measure that?

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#30

Nice website! An improvement to the website would be a CDN (faster loading of images) and using 'infinite scroll' to load all (~4000) images. One can use a piece of js to only load images in the viewport. Could also add a small placeholder text shown (instead of black) before the image is loaded. E.g. the coordinates, or county/state, or the size of the facility in square meters (or yards or whatever).

Please stop encouraging people to use infinite scroll, it is a scourge to be eradicated. In any case you think infinite scroll would be useful, what you really want is a link at the bottom of the page that says "elements per page: 25 | 50 | 250 | unlimited". Infinite scroll makes it painful to reach the end of a large list on a machine with low memory. It deprives the user of the ability to record your place in the l…

It deprives the user of the ability to record your place in the list if you want to come back tomorrow (or switch to another device or restart your computer etc. etc.), or send a link to someone else.

Technically, you can use history.pushState & replaceState to automatically update the URL to the current position without having to reload the page. Demo: http://scrollsample.appspot.com/items

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