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Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You raise a good point, and in order for this to work they'll need to ensure a full suite of emulators are available for testing. Android already provides an emulator [1] that can be configured to match the target device, although I can't speak to its quality as I have not used it. Windows Mobile is in a similar position, and its SDK provides emulators for every phone you would want to test on. Phones differ so much…

Its not just about being able to test (although I have serious doubts that any suite of emulators will be able to give anything more than a rough guess as to how an app will perform on a wide variety of potential platforms) but also about what features will be available, what APIs will work, and how much code you will have to write to deal with some funky condition on Vendor A's phone that makes it differ in some sub…

From I seen so far unless you're playing with low level stuff the software is consistent across the devices.

For now Android is far from the J2ME scenario, let's hope it will stay that way.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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I think it would be great to have more competition in the smartphone marketplace. My concern as a developer is that with so many devices coming out can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? I certainly cannot afford to buy 12 different phones. Sure, adroid is supposed to be the common OS but is it going to really work that way in practice?

I think you can be as sure about that as you are sure that writing a desktop application for MS Windows will run on most machines running Windows regardless of the underlying hardware.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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Translation: Our manufacturers are getting desperate, and are about to subsidize and/or give away a metric assload of phones to a lot of people who are too cheap to buy your apps.

I think your translator is broken -- there's just a bunch of new Android phones all coming out at once, whereas before last month there was only the G1 on T-Mobile. Hence the explosion.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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I think it would be great to have more competition in the smartphone marketplace. My concern as a developer is that with so many devices coming out can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? I certainly cannot afford to buy 12 different phones. Sure, adroid is supposed to be the common OS but is it going to really work that way in practice?

The main difference is screen sizes and densities -- their latest blog post talks about it in depth: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/

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I think it would be great to have more competition in the smartphone marketplace. My concern as a developer is that with so many devices coming out can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? I certainly cannot afford to buy 12 different phones. Sure, adroid is supposed to be the common OS but is it going to really work that way in practice?

You raise a good point, and in order for this to work they'll need to ensure a full suite of emulators are available for testing. Android already provides an emulator [1] that can be configured to match the target device, although I can't speak to its quality as I have not used it. Windows Mobile is in a similar position, and its SDK provides emulators for every phone you would want to test on. Phones differ so much…

The emulator is quite configurable, so you can set up a profile for each set of hardware. Of course there are things like tilt sensors and accelerometers that just don't translate well.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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With the new Verizon Android phones coming to market shortly, a key factor will be how many features does Verizon remove from the phone. The new Android phones are extremely powerful and Android provides an excellent platform to leverage the hardware. However, it's doubtful that Verizon will offer the new phones with full support for things such as free Maps/Navigation, free games, chat, etc -- since they charge quit…

Verizon is getting better.

They crippled the HTC Touch Pro horribly (including cutting its RAM in half for no good reason), just like most of their phones.

But the HTC Touch Pro 2 came out completely unmolested.

Hopefully this represents a change in strategy...

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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Translation: Our manufacturers are getting desperate, and are about to subsidize and/or give away a metric assload of phones to a lot of people who are too cheap to buy your apps.

I think your translator is broken -- there's just a bunch of new Android phones all coming out at once, whereas before last month there was only the G1 on T-Mobile. Hence the explosion.

Here's Gartner's prediction of Android going from 2% to 14% by 2012: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139026/Android_to_gr...

There may be as many as 40(!) phones coming out in 2010.

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I think it would be great to have more competition in the smartphone marketplace. My concern as a developer is that with so many devices coming out can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? I certainly cannot afford to buy 12 different phones. Sure, adroid is supposed to be the common OS but is it going to really work that way in practice?

...can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? That's one of the main points of Android. It's in Apple's DNA to really polish their software on a small number of hardware platforms. This might not be so much of an advantage when it comes to apps handling personal information. However, this advantage might be significant when it comes to games some of which…

> However, this advantage might be significant when it comes to games some of which have a tendency to push whatever hardware they are on.

This doesn't line up with the experience in desktop software where the the PC dominates gaming despite having a multitude of difference hardware environments.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...can I be reasonably assured that any app I write for android will work on all devices as with the iPhone? That's one of the main points of Android. It's in Apple's DNA to really polish their software on a small number of hardware platforms. This might not be so much of an advantage when it comes to apps handling personal information. However, this advantage might be significant when it comes to games some of which…

> However, this advantage might be significant when it comes to games some of which have a tendency to push whatever hardware they are on. This doesn't line up with the experience in desktop software where the the PC dominates gaming despite having a multitude of difference hardware environments.

This is in part because the manufacturers have adopted standards - be they patented, like x86 and directx, or open like opengl. Unfortunately, we don't see as much in terms of standards on phones.

Android addresses this, though, since everything runs on dalvik. A JIT would be nice if we're going to see more resource-intensive stuff.

Re: Schmidt: "Android Adoption Is About To Explode"

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I would expect with all the revelations lately about Microsoft's behavior that a lot of the Windows Mobile licensees to take a look at coming out with an Android phone (since they cannot license Web OS or iPhone OS).

The handset makers are hedging their bets with Android because they know Microsoft is interested in producing their own first party phone. When this happens it's likely Windows Mobile will become Microsoft's only licensed handset OS and will be neglected and forgotten in quick succession. Microsoft's handset would probably run a new, non-licensable, OS. The rumors that Microsoft's phone project is in trouble are non-…

> They could slap a dial-pad on the Zune software and ship a product in 6 months or less.

I'm guessing you have not worked there.

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