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Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#21

I watched Citizenfour yesterday and one of the really disturbing parts of movie was Lavabit founder talking at European Parliament about why he had to shut it down. I am glad that something good is coming up. But can we please change name from 'dark' to something like 'secure, encrypted etc'? Dark inherently sounds negative, at least in my part of the world.

Maybe Safemail?

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#24
post #10

3 of 5 comments so far mentioning that the name is a mistake. Allow me to make that 4 of 6. Come on guys, authoritarians are going to argue that this is just about defending criminals and terrorists, do you want to make that argument for them? Call it 'Liberty mail' or something.

Liberty Mail is an equally bad name. Don't conflate technology with freedom. Call it Electronic Messaging or something instead.

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#25
post #23

Call it just email3, new version number can be hyped to regular Joe customers as being newer, therefore better.

This is a good one. Email3 sounds good. It shortens well - E3 message. The optics here are kind of important.

EDIT: Nanjing prices? Seriously Google autocorrect?

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#26
post #18
post #10

3 of 5 comments so far mentioning that the name is a mistake. Allow me to make that 4 of 6. Come on guys, authoritarians are going to argue that this is just about defending criminals and terrorists, do you want to make that argument for them? Call it 'Liberty mail' or something.

Let me enhance the argument Joe Shmoe: "I recently read that dark net users are 90% pedophiles. So is this an email service for pedophiles only?"

Why are people downvoting this? He's not making the argument, just explaining that people will put up this strawman.

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

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post #25
post #23

Call it just email3, new version number can be hyped to regular Joe customers as being newer, therefore better.

This is a good one. Email3 sounds good. It shortens well - E3 message. The optics here are kind of important. EDIT: Nanjing prices? Seriously Google autocorrect?

People are going to wonder what happened to "Email2" though.

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#29
As others have mentioned, I think a new name is necessary. It wouldn't be fair to the project to handicap it with such as name.

Name it after Voltaire, John Stuart Mill, Locke or similar.

Interestingly, a previous HN discussion also suggested a name change: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8157922

(The abbreviation DIME, Dark Internet Mail Environment, sometimes mentioned is also terrible. Hiding 'dark' with an abbreviation isn't enough)

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

#30
post #14

Freedom Mail.

Is that like 'Freedom Fries'?

Exactly like Freedom Fries. With less starch.

No reason not to use the same tactics the government uses. Patriot Act? Ha. This frames any attempts to thwart the security by the government as anti-freedom. The "liberty mail" recommendation in here was good too :D

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