Is this the first step to switch to servo?
Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
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Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#22I'm all for it if it means we finally get ::-webkit-scrollbar equivalency in Firefox...
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#23Is this the first step to switch to servo?
There are discussions on that topic. However, everybody needs to realize that this is Paul's personal project, not an official Mozilla project, so don't get your hopes too high.
That being said, I'm quite excited about that project, I opened a pull request a few hours ago and it was accepted :)
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#24I realize this is a personal project, but this is deeply amusing considering that: 1. Way back when (circa 1998-2001?), the Mozilla project started as a radical redesign of the next gen Netscape browser. One of the core principles of the architecture was that the browser itself would render the UI elements (using an HTML-like tech call XUL). 2. The Firefox browser (then called "Phoenix") was a reaction against the ab…
Similar concepts from Microsoft (browser wars era):
Microsoft integrated Trident (Internet Explorer HTML engine) to Win95 with the ActiveDesktop refresh (part of IE4 installation) and shipped with Win98 by default. The desktop background wallpaper was a large HTML page, there were DHTML widgets, the Explorer sidebar was HTML. In Windows 2000 and ME you could even preview Videos in the HTML based sidebar. WinXP's sidebar is HTML based too, also the slow applications window where you can uninstall applications, as well as the control panel. Even in Win7 and more modern versions the UI render code for the control panel, some new popup dialogs, and some Office UI and Windows Media Player is based on a forked render code that happened in the XP era. The EU even mandated that Microsoft has to release the API to the public, so that other developers could create such beautiful Windows applications based on that UI code.
Use your favorite PE resource explorer (e.g. reshacker) to verify it. The DHTML source is in various shell related dlls in the Windows directory.
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#25I've built that. Just to be clear: this is a personal project, not a mozilla project (even though I'm a mozilla employee). Also - many people find it silly to use HTML instead of the operating system toolkit library. But it's not HTML or native. It can be both. In this case, the HTML code define the layout, and we can draw native widgets inside (look at the tag in HTML, it's a native widget). For example, if you run…
Why don’t you use SVG instead of PNG for icons? Then you can use CSS to customize them for different themes.
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#26I realize this is a personal project, but this is deeply amusing considering that: 1. Way back when (circa 1998-2001?), the Mozilla project started as a radical redesign of the next gen Netscape browser. One of the core principles of the architecture was that the browser itself would render the UI elements (using an HTML-like tech call XUL). 2. The Firefox browser (then called "Phoenix") was a reaction against the ab…
I'm pretty sure Firefox has used XUL during its entire lifespan; Camino is the Mozilla browser that used native GUI.
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/roadmap/roadmap-02-Apr-2003.h...
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#27I've built that. Just to be clear: this is a personal project, not a mozilla project (even though I'm a mozilla employee). Also - many people find it silly to use HTML instead of the operating system toolkit library. But it's not HTML or native. It can be both. In this case, the HTML code define the layout, and we can draw native widgets inside (look at the tag in HTML, it's a native widget). For example, if you run…
Why don’t you use SVG instead of PNG for icons? Then you can use CSS to customize them for different themes.
I want to use SVG. See issue #24. I just don't have the assets.
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#28I realize this is a personal project, but this is deeply amusing considering that: 1. Way back when (circa 1998-2001?), the Mozilla project started as a radical redesign of the next gen Netscape browser. One of the core principles of the architecture was that the browser itself would render the UI elements (using an HTML-like tech call XUL). 2. The Firefox browser (then called "Phoenix") was a reaction against the ab…
Well, XUL was quite ahead of its time. Most of XUL has now been incorporated (and improved, and optimized) in HTML.
Also, Phoenix kept using XUL, just a rewrite that didn't attempt to do everything from scratch, but relied upon native components wherever available. Most of the Firefox UI is either XUL or HTML.
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#29I realize this is a personal project, but this is deeply amusing considering that: 1. Way back when (circa 1998-2001?), the Mozilla project started as a radical redesign of the next gen Netscape browser. One of the core principles of the architecture was that the browser itself would render the UI elements (using an HTML-like tech call XUL). 2. The Firefox browser (then called "Phoenix") was a reaction against the ab…
You're getting your browser history mixed up a little -- Phoenix was a reaction against the general bloat of Mozilla, but it was still a cross-platform XUL-based affair.
Check out the Phoenix 0.1 announcement: http://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_r...
"Phoenix is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component, similar to Galeon, K-Meleon and Chimera, but written using the XUL user interface language and designed to be cross-platform."
Re: Firefox.html: Rebuilding Firefox UI in HTML
#30Is this the first step to switch to servo?
There are discussions on that topic. However, everybody needs to realize that this is Paul's personal project, not an official Mozilla project, so don't get your hopes too high. That being said, I'm quite excited about that project, I opened a pull request a few hours ago and it was accepted :)
Can you link to the pull request? I'm curious to see it, but can't find it.