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Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by emidln »

virtuallynathan wrote: post #18
freshflowers wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It irks me that every time AWS comes up people compare the pricing with simple VPS providers that only sell virtual machines and a few bells and whistles. For starters, users that burn a lot of bandwidth probably don't do it by serving files from a VPS in a single location. In an AWS context, they may be using S3, Cloudfront and all the features and services that come with it. Setting all of that up on DIY VPS boxes…

That may be true, but try building a CDN on top of AWS and you'll be out of cash pretty quickly with their bandwidth prices.

It seems like a bad strategic decision to try to build a CDN on top of a platform that already offers a CDN while expecting to be cheaper than their economy-of-scale-driven CDN.

Not to say that you couldn't build a CDN on AWS, but if you're going to do it, wanting to do it for cheaper than someone who doesn't pay markup on the same instances (Amazon) isn't realistic.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by admiun »

wbond wrote: post #15

AWS and most other cloud providers have prohibitively expensive bandwidth compared to Linode's bundled bandwidth. With Linode you get a free server to boot! Just yesterday I compared a VM with 8gb ram moving 4.4TB of data. With Linode you get 8TB for $80 a month. Yesterday AWS was $630 for the same server and the 4.4TB of bandwidth. For that price on Linode you can get 4 16gb servers, totaling 32 cores and 64TB of ba…

This is an unfair comparison. Like others have mentioned in this thread they have subtle items in their terms and conditions that prevent you from actually using all that bandwidth 100% month by month. They can offer these prices by overselling their bandwidth.

You can move a lot of bandwidth for sure but as soon as you start using droplets or linodes for the sole intent of using its' included bandwidth (to self-build a CDN on it for example) you'll be shut down in no time.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by virtuallynathan »

emidln wrote: post #21
virtuallynathan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may be true, but try building a CDN on top of AWS and you'll be out of cash pretty quickly with their bandwidth prices.

It seems like a bad strategic decision to try to build a CDN on top of a platform that already offers a CDN while expecting to be cheaper than their economy-of-scale-driven CDN. Not to say that you couldn't build a CDN on AWS, but if you're going to do it, wanting to do it for cheaper than someone who doesn't pay markup on the same instances (Amazon) isn't realistic.

This is true, but not all content is fit for CloudFront or other CDNs.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by jokergd »

ghshephard wrote: post #16
jokergd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding DigitalOcean -- they would NOT frown on it if you go over your usage, you are charged 0.02 cents per gigabyte over your limit if you stay within your usage, nothing happens (note, as of right now, there is no charges for overages. until your bandwidth transfer stats are available on the control panel, there will be no overage charges)

My suspicion is they would shut you down, or encourage you to move to a larger droplet. As is referenced by glomph later in this thread, their TOU states "3.3 You shall not: (i) take any action that imposes or may impose (as determined by us in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our (or our third party providers’) infrastructure;" Consistently using excessive bandwidth likely fal…

I work for DigitalOcean.

We would not shut you down.

Only gray situation is if you are flooding; amazon will send you a [bandwidth] bill, we send you a ticket

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by Wilya »

wbond wrote: post #15

AWS and most other cloud providers have prohibitively expensive bandwidth compared to Linode's bundled bandwidth. With Linode you get a free server to boot! Just yesterday I compared a VM with 8gb ram moving 4.4TB of data. With Linode you get 8TB for $80 a month. Yesterday AWS was $630 for the same server and the 4.4TB of bandwidth. For that price on Linode you can get 4 16gb servers, totaling 32 cores and 64TB of ba…

Bandwidth on EC2 VMs is crazily expensive, especially when you add the fact that you need to use the most expensive instances to get decent speeds.

On the other hand, if you have some heavy static files to serve, the scalability of S3 is hard to beat. It can serve the files more reliably than anything you can come up with.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

#26

Post by andrewvc »

ghshephard wrote: post #16
jokergd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding DigitalOcean -- they would NOT frown on it if you go over your usage, you are charged 0.02 cents per gigabyte over your limit if you stay within your usage, nothing happens (note, as of right now, there is no charges for overages. until your bandwidth transfer stats are available on the control panel, there will be no overage charges)

My suspicion is they would shut you down, or encourage you to move to a larger droplet. As is referenced by glomph later in this thread, their TOU states "3.3 You shall not: (i) take any action that imposes or may impose (as determined by us in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our (or our third party providers’) infrastructure;" Consistently using excessive bandwidth likely fal…

If you've ever bought bandwidth at a colo you know the AWS rates have extremely high margins. I'd wager that DO can afford it, it just eats at their margins.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by ghshephard »

mackwic wrote: post #12

I really don't understand this thing about charging bandwidth. In France we are used to the free and unlimited bandwidth for all providers and hosters (see OVH, Gandi, Dedibox... but also all ISP), and the rare cases when I had to pay my bandwidth (Hertzner), the service was quite bad (routes issues, ipv6 issues, and the throughput was very inconsistent). It really seems to me like some providers are trying to charge…

TANSTAAFL

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by wbond »

admiun wrote: post #22
wbond wrote: post #15

AWS and most other cloud providers have prohibitively expensive bandwidth compared to Linode's bundled bandwidth. With Linode you get a free server to boot! Just yesterday I compared a VM with 8gb ram moving 4.4TB of data. With Linode you get 8TB for $80 a month. Yesterday AWS was $630 for the same server and the 4.4TB of bandwidth. For that price on Linode you can get 4 16gb servers, totaling 32 cores and 64TB of ba…

This is an unfair comparison. Like others have mentioned in this thread they have subtle items in their terms and conditions that prevent you from actually using all that bandwidth 100% month by month. They can offer these prices by overselling their bandwidth. You can move a lot of bandwidth for sure but as soon as you start using droplets or linodes for the sole intent of using its' included bandwidth (to self-buil…

I'm currently at 5TB of my 8TB cap and Linode hasn't batted an eye.

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by wbond »

tobltobs wrote: post #19
wbond wrote: post #15

AWS and most other cloud providers have prohibitively expensive bandwidth compared to Linode's bundled bandwidth. With Linode you get a free server to boot! Just yesterday I compared a VM with 8gb ram moving 4.4TB of data. With Linode you get 8TB for $80 a month. Yesterday AWS was $630 for the same server and the 4.4TB of bandwidth. For that price on Linode you can get 4 16gb servers, totaling 32 cores and 64TB of ba…

If you are comparing apples with bananas you should also compare the Linode prices with Hetzner, there you get 4c/8t,32GB,30TB for under 80$.

How is an AWS EC2 instance used for serving files a banana, but a Linode instance serving files an apple?

Re: AWS Data Transfer Price Reduction

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Post by wbond »

freshflowers wrote: post #17
wbond wrote: post #15

AWS and most other cloud providers have prohibitively expensive bandwidth compared to Linode's bundled bandwidth. With Linode you get a free server to boot! Just yesterday I compared a VM with 8gb ram moving 4.4TB of data. With Linode you get 8TB for $80 a month. Yesterday AWS was $630 for the same server and the 4.4TB of bandwidth. For that price on Linode you can get 4 16gb servers, totaling 32 cores and 64TB of ba…

It irks me that every time AWS comes up people compare the pricing with simple VPS providers that only sell virtual machines and a few bells and whistles. For starters, users that burn a lot of bandwidth probably don't do it by serving files from a VPS in a single location. In an AWS context, they may be using S3, Cloudfront and all the features and services that come with it. Setting all of that up on DIY VPS boxes…

I currently use 5TB a month. I pay $80 with Linode. If I switched to AWS, as of yesterday I would have payed $630 for November.

I am not understanding how my comparison is wrong.

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