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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:42 PM UTC

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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by jarun » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:43 PM UTC

Another bloatware from MS :) Seriously... I crawls even on Windows... which you need to buy! ;)

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by sergiotapia » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:47 PM UTC

Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by oblio » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:50 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #23

Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

I think that the statement above yours is trying to point out that they're simplifying the license.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:52 PM UTC

pherocity_ wrote: post #9

How is this different from Express versions?

Besides what is referred in sibling posts:

- DirectX debugging tools, including GPGPU

- Parallel code debugging

- MFC and ATL for those that still need to support such type of applications

- 64 bit compilers

- DDK integration

- Sharepoint integration

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:52 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #24

sergiotapia wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

I think that the statement above yours is trying to point out that they're simplifying the license.

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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by tacos » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:53 PM UTC

drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

Visual Studio express comes in different editions, so it's unlikely that Visual C# Express installed Visual BASIC, as that was what Visual BASIC Express is. And running the Express for Web 2013 installer says it will use less than 1GB of disk space.

What that out of the way, within five seconds of clicking the link here it computed 7GB of disk space. It did not provide options to ignore subcomponents like the full VS 2013/4.

My experience is that the MS tools stuff installs and uninstalls cleanly -- and what little it leaves behind are some system components that I'd prefer to have updated and left around anyway. If this freaks you out then that's what VMs are for.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by jimueller » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:53 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #23

Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

If you have a grudge against MS, that's fine. But this isn't really confusing at all.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by motters » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:56 PM UTC

That's free as in price, not as in freedom.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by tacos » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 1:57 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #23

Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

Is "Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps" really that hard to understand? The other stuff reads as "if you have more than 250 PCs in your company, buy the damn thing." The exceptions they make are totally in developer's favor and proof that no matter what Microsoft does some people will bitch.