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Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by nopassrecover » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:07 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #19

Sigh...third time today and I only got one karma point for pointing it first. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=862216 if you feel sympathetic :) EDIT: gee guys, the smiley should tell you this ^ is not a serious complaint. I thought people might actually be interested in reading the actual paper v, since project page link has been inaccessible. Sheesh. Site is down but this is the Siggraph paper: http://www.ece.nu…

This guy got downvoted for giving the most informative comment in this thread?

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by anigbrowl » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:21 AM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #12

chime wrote: post #2

I'm having a very hard time believing that this is real. If it is, they have just made breakthroughs in multiple domains in computer graphics, recognition, and composition at the same time. Here's hoping it's real.

We've been seeing some pretty fascinating developments in graphics and pattern recognition recently. A few days ago someone submitted that amazing Photoshop plugin that allows you to select a region and move it around seamlessly, and also fill in areas seamlessly. The demo showed the software filling in the broken areas of the Pantheon and the results were quite impressive. A combination of both technologies would be…

Just FYI, that stuff to which you refer is a teaser for CS5, the next iteration of Photoshop...due around April, most likely.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by stcredzero » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:34 AM UTC

ABrandt wrote: post #10

Alright I may have a tendency to be overly excited about new technologies, but this is seriously amazing. The possibilities (and problems) that arise from this application are vast. This could completely revolutionize the stock photography industry and web design in general. Copyright and privacy issues are my greatest concern though. For example, could you imagine seeing yourself as a digital model on some corporate…

Sounds like hyperbole, but this technology has the potential to change the way people use language and speak and think.

Ever notice how many Americans use "like" as a preamble to a reenactment of a scene from a TV show, or an event, or even an abstracted, generalized occurrence? "It was like..." then on to the enactment. People wouldn't speak like this if it wasn't for ubiquitous video entertainment.

In David Brin's Uplift trilogy, uplifted sentient dolphins sometimes "spoke" to each other by mimicking echolocation returns and beaming pictures and scenes directly into each other's heads. If software like this gets good enough to compose scenes for us on the fly, it will drastically alter the way we speak, just as television did.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by hyperbovine » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:41 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #19

Sigh...third time today and I only got one karma point for pointing it first. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=862216 if you feel sympathetic :) EDIT: gee guys, the smiley should tell you this ^ is not a serious complaint. I thought people might actually be interested in reading the actual paper v, since project page link has been inaccessible. Sheesh. Site is down but this is the Siggraph paper: http://www.ece.nu…

In today's hypercompetitive world, branding is key. Compare:

"Photorealistic image composition from simple sketches"

vs.

"This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch"

Which one would you rather click on?

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by hyperbovine » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:44 AM UTC

harisenbon wrote: post #17

The probability of mis-matched images seems like it would be incredibly high, but if they manage to pull this off, it would be amazing. However, I wonder about this technology being used for evil (custom porn). =/

Wait, custom porn is evil? I guess I'm the only one who's tired of all this cookie-cutter porn.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by jonhohle » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:48 AM UTC

Ariel Shamir (4th author listed in the paper) also worked on Seam Carving (http://www.seamcarving.com/) and Improved Seam Carving (http://www.shaiavidan.org/papers/vidretLowRes.pdf), two widely publicized papers from the past two years.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by anigbrowl » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 3:50 AM UTC

hyperbovine wrote: post #24

anigbrowl wrote: post #19

Sigh...third time today and I only got one karma point for pointing it first. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=862216 if you feel sympathetic :) EDIT: gee guys, the smiley should tell you this ^ is not a serious complaint. I thought people might actually be interested in reading the actual paper v, since project page link has been inaccessible. Sheesh. Site is down but this is the Siggraph paper: http://www.ece.nu…

In today's hypercompetitive world, branding is key. Compare: "Photorealistic image composition from simple sketches" vs. "This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch" Which one would you rather click on?

The former, obviously. This is why I can't have nice things :-D

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by joeyo » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 4:03 AM UTC

jerf wrote: post #16

chime wrote: post #2

I'm having a very hard time believing that this is real. If it is, they have just made breakthroughs in multiple domains in computer graphics, recognition, and composition at the same time. Here's hoping it's real.

Surprisingly, not really. Computer vision has been moving along lately. This is good stuff, but incremental progress against the backdrop of other good stuff in the field. A few times in the past few months the question of whether "all the good stuff" has been discovered or whether there's no progress left to be made came up, and computer vision has been one of my go-to examples of a field that has just been booming…

I have seen this argument being made frequently here recently--that the "AI" that we have produced is not "real" AI. This is understandable true in a way, since after all, AIs cannot do many of the things that natural intelligences can do. And so there is this perceived disconnect between the weak AI that we have (rules, heuristics, belief networks, bayesian inference and friends) and the strong that we AI (magic?).

But there is a similar disconnect that looms between the rudimentary intelligence of simple organisms and the more sophisticated intelligence higher mammals. Many researchers have noted this taken the insight that with a simple set of rules you can get complex behavior. This has lead to something of a revolution in ML, robotics and neuromorphic engineering. If this analogy holds, then it may be that the distance between weak and strong AI will be bridged in the same way that the distance between single celled organisms and primates appears to be bridged: by iteratively building complex systems on top of simpler building blocks. There simply won't be a secret sauce to be found, but each layer of complexity will allow for increasingly sophisticated behavior.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by JacobAldridge » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 4:03 AM UTC

NickM wrote: post #14

chime wrote: post #2

I'm having a very hard time believing that this is real. If it is, they have just made breakthroughs in multiple domains in computer graphics, recognition, and composition at the same time. Here's hoping it's real.

My guess is that it's real, but that it doesn't usually work as well as the example images provided. If it really works for any kind of input sketch, then how come there are so many images of dogs catching frisbees and bears catching fish?

Yup. When I see a real-time demonstration showing a bear catching a frisbee (probably, but not definitely, while jumping out of a shark-threatened helicopter), then I'll believe it.

Edit: I'll also believe it if anyone on this site claims to have seen same.

Re: This Is a Photoshop and It Blew My Mind - Photosketch

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Post by JacobAldridge » Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 4:10 AM UTC

hyperbovine wrote: post #25

harisenbon wrote: post #17

The probability of mis-matched images seems like it would be incredibly high, but if they manage to pull this off, it would be amazing. However, I wonder about this technology being used for evil (custom porn). =/

Wait, custom porn is evil? I guess I'm the only one who's tired of all this cookie-cutter porn.

So glad the downvote maxes at -4

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