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> 3 months: How long it takes a dedicated beginner to learn the skills to qualify for computing and web development jobs. I'm genuinely curious as to how many people here, who either program or hire programmers, will say that the above is a true statement.

To qualify yes. You can teach a beginner enough in three (hardcore, dedicated) months to get on the ladder as a junior developer somewhere. To excel? No way. You need to be very prepared to offer that beginner a lot of support on the job.

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> 3 months: How long it takes a dedicated beginner to learn the skills to qualify for computing and web development jobs. I'm genuinely curious as to how many people here, who either program or hire programmers, will say that the above is a true statement.

I attended a 3 month NYC bootcamp with only matlab and visual basic programming experience (from college). On finishing the program, I had four job offers, two for 115k, one for 105, and one for 100k.

You are viewing the world from a very tiny bubble.

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I actually asked their CEO about this on PH. Building websites != engineering, and we need more of the latter. I do think there's a place for skills-based learning to take up some of the slack, but simply rehashing the same Rails/JS tutorials isn't going to cut it unfortunately.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's much resources online that say "Learn How to Become a Software Engineer!" without costing you three/four years of extra education and a sizeable sum of money. I'm learning how to program at the moment alongside my degree, and almost all the resources I've seen online are oriented towards web development; consequentially, that's what I'm learning, even though I'd much rather…

jlees has a good suggestion. I wanted to add Udacity (https://www.udacity.com/courses#!/all). For example, the course 'Artificial Intelligence for Robotics' (https://www.udacity.com/course/cs373) may be what you're looking for. I don't know your current skill level for programming nor understanding of mathematics (stats and probability) and computer science, but the course can be self-paced, which can make it great for presenting a concept and allowing you time to dive into the material, especially supporting foundational material. There are also other lower level courses. Good luck with your studies!

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Even with a great college education in CS and an undying passion for coding, it took me a year to really get web development. It's easy to learn the code, and I believe the MOOCs of the world have succeeded in providing great free resources for learning structural thinking. However, no course can teach you intuition - engineering intuition is the easiest characteristic to assess in a job interview and the skill that is most sought after.

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Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's much resources online that say "Learn How to Become a Software Engineer!" without costing you three/four years of extra education and a sizeable sum of money. I'm learning how to program at the moment alongside my degree, and almost all the resources I've seen online are oriented towards web development; consequentially, that's what I'm learning, even though I'd much rather…

jlees has a good suggestion. I wanted to add Udacity ( https://www.udacity.com/courses#!/all ). For example, the course 'Artificial Intelligence for Robotics' ( https://www.udacity.com/course/cs373 ) may be what you're looking for. I don't know your current skill level for programming nor understanding of mathematics (stats and probability) and computer science, but the course can be self-paced, which can make it gre…

Taking stats ATM; I've got the AI /w robots one marked down in my list of MOOCs, though I've put it at the bottom as I think I've got to cover a lot more 'fundamentals' first. Thanks for the heads up though.

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Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's much resources online that say "Learn How to Become a Software Engineer!" without costing you three/four years of extra education and a sizeable sum of money. I'm learning how to program at the moment alongside my degree, and almost all the resources I've seen online are oriented towards web development; consequentially, that's what I'm learning, even though I'd much rather…

I'd say the closest things would be actual honest-to-goodness academic courses online, e.g Coursera/MIT/etc computer science tracks.

This is actually where I started, with MIT's intro OCW. I began to worry, though, that I would be better served learning something directly relevant to the job market, and so half-way in I moved onto The Odin Project. My plan as it stands is to first get a grasp of web development so I can have a solid chance of getting a job after graduation, but I intend to go through a lot of MOOCs once I'm done with TOP. I've got a year and 2/3rds until graduation, which will hopefully let me learn a fair bit.

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There once was an island with a population of 100 dogs. Every day a plane flew overhead and dropped 95 bones onto the island. It was a dog paradise, except for the fact that every day 5 dogs went hungry. Hearing about the problem, a group of social scientists was sent to assess the situation and recommend remedies. The social scientists ran a series of regressions and determined that bonelessness in the dog populatio…

Meh. While entertaining, this is a fallacious allegory. This fails to consider the divisibility of bones, some dogs getting more than one bone or the fact that in real life scenarios that the number of bones can fluctuate (more or fewer bones). Furthermore, the site states that there are 1 million unclaimed bones. While I won't argue either in favor of or against that figure, but assuming there are unclaimed bones, y…

You misunderstand the nature of the implicit argument. The allegory doesn't have to address the intricacies of bone accounting or the fantasies of bone accountants because the story it describes has already played out countless times in countless economic sectors with one overwhelmingly favored result. The burden of proof lies squarely on the shoulders of the person who believes that this time the story will have a different ending.

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Meh. While entertaining, this is a fallacious allegory. This fails to consider the divisibility of bones, some dogs getting more than one bone or the fact that in real life scenarios that the number of bones can fluctuate (more or fewer bones). Furthermore, the site states that there are 1 million unclaimed bones. While I won't argue either in favor of or against that figure, but assuming there are unclaimed bones, y…

You misunderstand the nature of the implicit argument. The allegory doesn't have to address the intricacies of bone accounting or the fantasies of bone accountants because the story it describes has already played out countless times in countless economic sectors with one overwhelmingly favored result. The burden of proof lies squarely on the shoulders of the person who believes that this time the story will have a d…

Your comment is so generic it is hard to argue with it. Also it is a fact proven by the growth of the gdp per capita and average living quality that economics in general is not a zero sum game.

Currently the overall number of programmers/computer scientists/coders steadily increases and still there is a large shortage of workforce in these areas.

Please provide citations to support that 'countless economic sectors/countless times' claim.

Re: Codecademy launches Reskill USA

#30

> 3 months: How long it takes a dedicated beginner to learn the skills to qualify for computing and web development jobs. I'm genuinely curious as to how many people here, who either program or hire programmers, will say that the above is a true statement.

3 months from beginner to job ready ready is, basically, bullshit. There are people who do it, but they're the exception. The jobs they're getting typically rely on their using other skill sets on day one so they can continue learning software engineering for months in order to gain a useful level of proficiency.

This doesn't make the "3 month" claim worthless, but it does make it hard to fit into a sound bite.

I should know: I'm the co-founder and CEO of the Thinkful, Codecademy's other online partner in ReskillUSA.

Our company has hired many of our own students and helped hundreds of others successfully make the transition to truly job-ready engineer.

I've also spent the last decade as a professional software engineer, and another five years before that writing software. I'm 33 years old. After coding for half my life I feel I know less than half the craft.

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