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Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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This is one of the more pleasant unsolicited redesigns of HN, because it keeps a lot of the subtlety that makes HN an easy site to return to constantly: a prioritization of the headlines and a deemphasis on username and points (the position of a story is more than enough of an indicator of the story's current popularity). The bigger upvote arrows are nice, though I guess one could argue that ease-of-upvoting is not a…

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Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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My main issue with HN is that the comments link is a pain on touch devices. This redesign seems to make that link even smaller. Much of the value of HN lies in the amazing comments, so I would prefer that link to get almost equal prominence to the actual article. I also don't understand how almost unreadably pale article titles make the page more usable. To me this redesign is another case of making it prettier rathe…

My main issue is that moderation and filtering of comments based on score could be much improved, or so it seems. Sometimes I just want to read the best rated comments of a story.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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My main issue with HN is that the comments link is a pain on touch devices. This redesign seems to make that link even smaller. Much of the value of HN lies in the amazing comments, so I would prefer that link to get almost equal prominence to the actual article. I also don't understand how almost unreadably pale article titles make the page more usable. To me this redesign is another case of making it prettier rathe…

You could probably cook up a userscript that swaps the comments url and the article url, and changes the 'comments' link text to 'article'. (This also takes care of the opening sentence of many comments ('did you read the article?').

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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post #20

kudos to you and great job being brave and sharing your work. takes courage to be that vulnerable. having said that, it's not working for me. 1. the article list is now 100px or so lower on the page because the top bar is so large. the top bar is more readable and usable, but i can't remember the last time i clicked it, so i'd prefer to get to the articles more. 2. the numbers for each article (1,2,3,4) are the most…

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Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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post #20

kudos to you and great job being brave and sharing your work. takes courage to be that vulnerable. having said that, it's not working for me. 1. the article list is now 100px or so lower on the page because the top bar is so large. the top bar is more readable and usable, but i can't remember the last time i clicked it, so i'd prefer to get to the articles more. 2. the numbers for each article (1,2,3,4) are the most…

On point 1. I hope you appreciate your angle is pretty oldschool and would beg to strongly disagree. I have read a lot of HN commenters over the past few years commenting on similar designs/redesigns that seem to share your viewpoint and desire for 'information density' and not needing to scroll, but I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority that is going the way of the dinosaur.

Scrolling is cheap.

A fat top-bar is not a negative, because you can't read 20 article titles at once and scrolling costs you nothing. I'd love to see a study on this but I suspect the number of article headlines we can cope with in one 'scan'(?) and get something useful from is around 5-10 max? Twitter on my phone shows me about 5 tweets at a time. Does it feel like a bad user experience to me? Hell no.

>> 4. the bottom orange footer now is a heavy-weight element that draws my eyes from the articles. [...] overall i feel like the articles ought to be the most important element and this takes away from the articles.

Sorry that is nonsense, we humans are not that easily distracted and know to look for content in the 'content area' between the header and footer area particularly when they're so clearly differentianted (content = white bit, header/footer = orange bit). My eyes go straight for the articles on every website with a coloured header/footer ever.

I have other issues with this redesign but namely that it still feels significantly inferior to the Georgify Chrome extension [1] that has been around for years now and just by virtue of good typography and minimal design is still kicking everyone of these redesign's respective asses.

That said good job and great post, it's definitely a big step up from the original and I love your header :)

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/georgify/ofjfdfale...

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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post #20

kudos to you and great job being brave and sharing your work. takes courage to be that vulnerable. having said that, it's not working for me. 1. the article list is now 100px or so lower on the page because the top bar is so large. the top bar is more readable and usable, but i can't remember the last time i clicked it, so i'd prefer to get to the articles more. 2. the numbers for each article (1,2,3,4) are the most…

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Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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I've dealt with more than a few designers handling solicited corporate website redesigns and one of the most critical issues I see back are "That looks really great, but where is our logo?" Yours looks like a fine example of a pretty design but you've trampled all over their brand in favour of your own palette and taste. Different Y, different spacing, different colours. You've designed something for a different company.

That #FFF-on-#F60 Y is their brand. It's what they have all over their offices, on their business cards, on their main website... Unless the client is looking to rebrand (for which I can see no reason), you need to use their existing trademarks. Branding is as important to the client as UX is to the user.

(And on a UX tack, there's a severe lack of contrast in various places. You appear to have faded out the most important text on the entire page (the content) with no explanation why. Telling me "Because I want it to fade in on mouseover" is a fireable offence.)

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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Things being ugly doesn't mean bad design. There is no such thing as objectively good design because all designed objects live in a certain context. Hacker news is purposefully unattractive and the register forms are outdated because the site wants to attract a certain type of person. If you're perturbed by the visual design then the community would probably benefit from not having you since the entire focus of the site is on the discussion that ideas generate. In that vein, it's ridiculous that legibility was not a key focus of the redesign since the singular mode of interaction with the site is through text. Why is the text contrast so poor?

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

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post #20

kudos to you and great job being brave and sharing your work. takes courage to be that vulnerable. having said that, it's not working for me. 1. the article list is now 100px or so lower on the page because the top bar is so large. the top bar is more readable and usable, but i can't remember the last time i clicked it, so i'd prefer to get to the articles more. 2. the numbers for each article (1,2,3,4) are the most…

On point 1. I hope you appreciate your angle is pretty oldschool and would beg to strongly disagree. I have read a lot of HN commenters over the past few years commenting on similar designs/redesigns that seem to share your viewpoint and desire for 'information density' and not needing to scroll, but I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority that is going the way of the dinosaur. Scrolling is…

> I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority

I am sorry, but it appears you might have some confusion about the demographics and the target demographics. The name, for instance, might give you a promising hint, provided you do little digging about the word 'hacker'. At times it means something that it does not appear to mean.

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