First Andy Rubin left to create Android, then Tony Fadell left to create Nest and now these guys.
Point – A smart house sitter
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#22> "Nothing is recorded or sent across the network. Peace of mind, without giving up on privacy." Devices like this still make me uncomfortable, given the track record of even large companies making extremely insecure devices[1]. [1]: http://www.ioactive.com/news-events/IOActive_advisory_belkin...
Form engineer here. We're not planning on shipping our firmware signing keys along with our product like Belkin did. Jokes aside, security, integrity and trust are our very top priorities. The hardware is designed in a way that should be extremely hard to misuse, and even if someone would be able to break the encrypted protocols, the encrypted and signed firmware images and manage to run custom firmwares on the MCU:s…
Are there any plans to have an Ethernet model rather than Wi-Fi?
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#23Another device connected to the cloud sending data to the cloud and this time also sound. It was already creepy the learn that Netatmo, a _weather_ station, is recording sound. Because the company released sound profiles from the games during the FIFA world championship mapped to countries, regions. As they said, there is only a loudness sensor integrated.
But this time it is a real microphone. That makes it another "smart" device to hack in to, to be used by 3 letter agencies.
I know there are webcams. But then people know. I work with many non-tech people and engineers from different companies. I have seens, that the majority is gluing the integrated webcams. Even in my own company, almost everybody has glued the webcam.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Form engineer here. We're not planning on shipping our firmware signing keys along with our product like Belkin did. Jokes aside, security, integrity and trust are our very top priorities. The hardware is designed in a way that should be extremely hard to misuse, and even if someone would be able to break the encrypted protocols, the encrypted and signed firmware images and manage to run custom firmwares on the MCU:s…
Any plans to open source some of the software?
Not at first but it's very likely that we will at some point.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Form engineer here. We're not planning on shipping our firmware signing keys along with our product like Belkin did. Jokes aside, security, integrity and trust are our very top priorities. The hardware is designed in a way that should be extremely hard to misuse, and even if someone would be able to break the encrypted protocols, the encrypted and signed firmware images and manage to run custom firmwares on the MCU:s…
Are there any plans to have an Ethernet model rather than Wi-Fi?
No. May I ask why you would prefer that? Is it a security concern?
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#26Home automation and home security need more powerline communication and less app-wankery and IoT pipedreams with shoddy wireless protocols.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there any plans to have an Ethernet model rather than Wi-Fi?
No. May I ask why you would prefer that? Is it a security concern?
I don't have WPS on my router (How else do you input the SSID/Password?) and I turn Wi-Fi off when I'm not in my house so this product would be a real hassle to setup/use.
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#28Here is a 2 1/2 min video on Point that I found through their Vimeo account (uploaded 11hrs ago): http://vimeo.com/110732806
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#29Glad to see at least some companies are taking an (at least semi-) offline approach to these things. With the way things have been going these last few years, the internet-of-things irks me. I've also often wondered why the home security industry seems to be so out of phase with the rest of the tech world; e.g. my house has a security system which seems to have been designed in the 70s (yet it was likely bought by th…
I feel the problem is that security is often tacked on (usually by another company) and not an integral part during the design from the start.
If home automation and security are treated as merely parts of one whole solution encompassing your property, we'll have less friction between the two and you'll have far fewer instances where it feels as if just someone walked in and "installed security", which is literally what happened. I don't blame the engineers entirely for this as I'm sure there are instances where convenience and price (for the company) has scuttled many good ideas and sane practices.
A while ago, I posted my dream of what automation should look like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6357753 It seems I'll be dreaming for a bit longer.
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#30Another device connected to the cloud sending data to the cloud and this time also sound. It was already creepy the learn that Netatmo, a _weather_ station, is recording sound. Because the company released sound profiles from the games during the FIFA world championship mapped to countries, regions. As they said, there is only a loudness sensor integrated. But this time it is a real microphone. That makes it another…
Please read what's on the site: "Nothing is recorded or sent across the network. Peace of mind, without giving up on privacy."
I appreaciate your privacy concerns, but not every device is the same. We are in an early stage of such cloud-based "smart devices", so we have to be careful as there are great conceptual differences between different products.