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The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by nikanj »

wvenable wrote: post #13

I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook. I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset i…

I should start an online collection of stories like this, so I could refer people to it when they complain about Apple hardware being overpriced and/or only bought by idiots.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by raverbashing »

And then MS will form a committee to investigate why this is not selling, and will conclude that tablets needs a "clippy" helper for the user. Clippy crashes 5 min into power-up.

Really.

I would've taken into the store and returned it. MS costs a lot in wasted productivity.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by nikanj »

cabirum wrote: post #18

What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that. It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.

Are you saying that if it had more ram, the vendor would've updated the windows image? I don't see a connection between the out-of-box software being broken and the device having lower specs than a phone.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by cabirum »

nikanj wrote: post #23
cabirum wrote: post #18

What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that. It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.

Are you saying that if it had more ram, the vendor would've updated the windows image? I don't see a connection between the out-of-box software being broken and the device having lower specs than a phone.

No, I'm saying specs alone are a warning sign of a junk device. Outdated software and lack of touchscreen drivers are just another consequence of manufacturers neglect.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by atomicrat2552 »

raverbashing wrote: post #22

And then MS will form a committee to investigate why this is not selling, and will conclude that tablets needs a "clippy" helper for the user. Clippy crashes 5 min into power-up. Really. I would've taken into the store and returned it. MS costs a lot in wasted productivity.

Unfortunately, I need it for work and for some other Windows Store dev work I'm doing. So, I'm suffering through it and leaving my impressions in the hope that MS can smooth over this experience later.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by atomicrat2552 »

cabirum wrote: post #24
nikanj wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that if it had more ram, the vendor would've updated the windows image? I don't see a connection between the out-of-box software being broken and the device having lower specs than a phone.

No, I'm saying specs alone are a warning sign of a junk device. Outdated software and lack of touchscreen drivers are just another consequence of manufacturers neglect.

OP here. I was expecting something called a "Microsoft Signature Device" to be similar to a Nexus device, wherein MS was working with the OEM to make a sort of reference device for the form factor. Nexus devices usually don't have the latest-and-greatest, and they still work pretty damn well.

What I got out of this instead is that MS guarantees a "Signature Device" to just be free of any bloatware. I was also deceived by the devices in-store working perfectly well, but having been already fixed by store employees before customers could get to them.

Guess I know better for the next time, eh?

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by atomicrat2552 »

cr3ative wrote: post #12
chatman wrote: post #9

Just get the tablet replaced or call Microsoft support.

Yeah, it clearly has hardware issues or a terrible power supply (which can cause some screens to register touches poorly)

Having updated the drivers and OS, it seems that the issues are all fixed by this point (which I'm putting in the Day 1 entry tomorrow). Was a really disconcerting out-of-box experience, though.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by ivanca »

nikanj wrote: post #21
wvenable wrote: post #13

I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook. I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset i…

I should start an online collection of stories like this, so I could refer people to it when they complain about Apple hardware being overpriced and/or only bought by idiots.

Yeah, an also note awesome laptops like an Acer I got for $400 5 years ago and despite many many hard hits against the floor it still works and has the same battery life length. This is true, but the problem with anecdotal experience is that you can "prove" anything with it.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by xtrumanx »

nikanj wrote: post #21
wvenable wrote: post #13

I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook. I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset i…

I should start an online collection of stories like this, so I could refer people to it when they complain about Apple hardware being overpriced and/or only bought by idiots.

As one of those people who believe Apple's hardware is overpriced, this story doesn't change my opinion on Apple's hardware.

I recognize the quality in Apple's devices but I believe the price point is way higher than the extra quality found in their products.

I've even recommended a MacBook to someone recently. Mainly for 2 reasons; their needs aligned with what the MacBook Pro would provide them with and they weren't the one paying for it.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by cabirum »

atomicrat2552 wrote: post #26
cabirum wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I'm saying specs alone are a warning sign of a junk device. Outdated software and lack of touchscreen drivers are just another consequence of manufacturers neglect.

OP here. I was expecting something called a "Microsoft Signature Device" to be similar to a Nexus device, wherein MS was working with the OEM to make a sort of reference device for the form factor. Nexus devices usually don't have the latest-and-greatest, and they still work pretty damn well. What I got out of this instead is that MS guarantees a "Signature Device" to just be free of any bloatware. I was also deceive…

I do hope your tablet works at least as well as devices in store (after finishing with updates :) ).
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