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Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#22
This might sound like a bit of a glib response, but just go with it. It sucks, but there is nothing you can do except to keep improving for your next opportunity.

For what it's worth, earlier this week I massively failed whiteboarding two should-have-been-dead-easy questions. Nerves jumped up and bit me. I'm talking near total meltdown in which I complicated a task as easy as swapping two variables using a single temporary.

What can I do about it at this point? Nothing. It's a tad embarrassing, but I'm already moving on. I've finally started reading Okasaki, and am making a project out of concurrently learning Elixir and some distributed algorithms.

I'll probably fail a technical interview again at some point in the future. But behind the scenes, I'll already be a better programmer than I was at that point in time. What else can I do?

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#23
I had my shot at Google in 2012, made it to the on-site rounds. I thought I did well, but I read all the rejection stories online so I wasn't holding my breath. Still, only my wife knew about the interviews; didn't tell the rest of my family. Back then, I felt like scoring that job would just make my life complete. 3 weeks later I got the "Sorry, not this time". Even though I thought I was ready for rejection, it still hit me kinda hard. But because of how hard I prepared for Google, I was able to nail the interview that came afterwards and ended up in a great company. And the experience from this job has given me some insight to what Google was probably looking for.

It feels rough at first, but don't take it personally. Keep doing what you love and it'll be alright. Last I heard, you can try about once a year or so. In the meanwhile, keep a list of other places you'd like to work and try for them. You might even find another gig so awesome that you don't hunger for G or A anymore. That's kinda what happened to me.

Time will heal.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#24
Timely post, I just heard back from Facebook today and didn't get an offer. I was pretty crestfallen at first, but I am kinda realizing that interviewing is really somewhat of a crapshoot.

At the time, I thought I did pretty well but as I went back over the questions, I realized that I missed a lot of the sort of "tricks" of the questions that they wanted to see.

It was really simple stuff, using a hash where I should have used a trie and not seeing an edge case initially, maybe not being super efficient in a design problem. After thinking about it, the result could have been drastically different (worse or better) using a different 4 questions.

CS is a broad problem space, its not surprising to come across something that you fail at and in my mind, thats to be expected. While this time luck wasn't on my side with a few questions I didn't do amazing at, it may be better next time. Its kinda crappy how arbitrary it can seem, but I don't know if there are much better alternatives.

I have a Google interview tomorrow, so I will try my best, but also remind myself that there is a lot of chance involved.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#26
I am currently working at a company that is widely considered to be amongst the best in the world in its area of expertise. I interviewed 6 times, with 6 different teams, over the course of about 8 months, until I got an offer from my current team.

What's interesting is that in retrospect, my current role is far more interesting and demanding on all fronts than any of the other teams I interviewed for.

It's hard, but keep pushing. The main thing that differentiates successful people from the others is persistence.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#27
Getting a good sense of a person is really difficult, especially through something as contrived as these technical interviews. And any company that sees enough applicants that they can afford it will err on the side of rejecting candidates even if they know they're probably good, if for whatever reason they're not quite sure. I've interviewed people that blew me away and then seen them rejected. I don't intend that as a criticism really because I can't imagine a hiring process, however well meaning, that doesn't have this issue to some extent. It's just how these things work.

When you don't get hired though, almost always you will err on the side of blaming yourself. I've heard about people blaming the process but I've never met someone in person who did that. And actually I suspect there's a Dunning–Kruger effect working where the more qualified you are the more likely you are to turn a rejection inwards and blame yourself.

I'm not saying that's what happened here, I don't know. Just keep in mind that hiring anywhere, including at amazon and google, can't be a fair process to the candidate. And you're the least objective observer of your own performance.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#28
Not sure CS-interview related advice is warranted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8181380

To OP: I'm really sorry that you didn't get the job you wanted. My path is not the same as yours, but I ran into rejection applying to college, applying to grad school, and applying to jobs after grad school.

In each case I felt terrible. I didn't know how to move forwards or what I was going to do, I felt like the rejection was an indictment of my self-worth.

But I think it helps to keep three things in mind:

- The people on the other side of these interviews are humans - they make mistakes and work off incomplete data. I guarantee you that they know far less about who you are, personally or professionally, than any of your friends or loved ones.

- Your self worth isn't tied to how well you do during an interview, or how many job offers you get, or whether or not your dream company gives you a job.

- Your destination - if you don't give up, you will probably end up where you wanted to go. But almost certainly, you won't have taken the path you originally set out to take. Life is filled with unforeseen setbacks and unanticipated opportunities. Proceed with an open mind and don't feel like you need to have everything figured out right away.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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post #26

I am currently working at a company that is widely considered to be amongst the best in the world in its area of expertise. I interviewed 6 times, with 6 different teams, over the course of about 8 months, until I got an offer from my current team. What's interesting is that in retrospect, my current role is far more interesting and demanding on all fronts than any of the other teams I interviewed for. It's hard, but…

I think this is great info. It's usually never quite clear from the applicant's perspective whether multiple interviews with multiple teams is kosher or not (maybe depends on org as well?). Great datapoint ta have. Thanks for sharing, and congrats on the gig!
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