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Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

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Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#21

Kudos. But they should really invest time in making the UI responsive and fast. This is my biggest gripe about firefox. I also find it incomprehensible that it checks for updates on startup in a modal fashion. Very annoying.

What version of Firefox are you using? It hasn't done that in ages. You have to open the About window to check for new updates and install them.

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#22

As soon as firefox gets per process tabs in stable I'll switch back, I really want to switch from chrome but that's a deal killer for me.

I could survive without processes-per-tab, if Firefox gave some hint – any hint! – which tabs are being naughty. Maybe just a per-tab counter of allocations, or timeouts, or DOM edits, or some other operation? Anything that serves as a proxy for "more active than average while not in foreground".

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#25

"This puts us in a position of strength, so we can say "these benchmarks are not very interesting; let's talk about other benchmarks (e.g. asm.js-related) and language features" without being accused of being sore losers." But are asmjs benchmarks interesting? They are not representative of the vast majority of real-world JS, so wouldn't an asmjs-laden benchmark suite really be a case of optimizing for your own set o…

Being representative of "existing real world JS" is one way benchmarks can be interesting. On the other hand, asm.js benchmarks are interesting because improving asm.js performance expands the scope of what the Web can do. Ditto for new language features.

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#26

You know, I just don't know who to believe these days when it comes to browser benchmarks. All browser vendors pretty much say they lead all browsers in _something_. Honestly, I don't even know what all these benchmarks mean most of the time.

The point in this one is SpiderMonkey is beating V8 in the benchmark designed such that V8 wins on it.

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Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#27

As soon as firefox gets per process tabs in stable I'll switch back, I really want to switch from chrome but that's a deal killer for me.

Mozilla is currently testing Electrolysis (or "e10s") [1] - their project to run web content in a separate process - on nightly, and I've been using it for the past few weeks. It's getting pretty reasonably stable, so hopefully we'll see it in a release version soon enough. According to [2], the tentative plan is for Electrolysis to be released with Firefox 36.

[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis

[2] http://www.ghacks.net/2014/07/12/mozilla-plans-release-elect...

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#28
post #3

I have been very impressed by Firefox lately. Kudos to the whole team at Mozilla. Just about 5 years ago, it was looking to me like it was the end of Firefox. It was Chrome all the way. New features were coming out one after another. Faster rendering. Safe process isolation for each tab. Looked better. But I just switched back last month. It happened kind of randomly. Saw an announcement of a new release ( 33, I thin…

I've been reminding everyone I know who still uses Chrome to try Firefox again. Many have switched back. It's simply a better browser. One e10s is in stable, it's going to be even better.

Google is a for-profit company that makes money selling your data and targeted, personal ads.

Mozilla is not-for-profit and just wants to make the web better.

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#29

Firefox is awesome and I love it, but my one complaint after all these years is that I have to restart the browser every day. It's not the end of the world, but it's still frustrating, especially when I'm in the throes of debugging or important research. Over the course of a day, the browser becomes unresponsive and CPU usage idles at 10-15%. Restarting with the same tabs brings it down to 0%. Yes, I know, disable ad…

Genuinely curious if this is a common use case or not. I personally close chrome maybe half a dozen times an hour.

How old are you? I won't get anything done if I kept re-loading my ~200 tabs.

Re: Spidermonkey has passed V8 on Octane performance

#30
post #3

I have been very impressed by Firefox lately. Kudos to the whole team at Mozilla. Just about 5 years ago, it was looking to me like it was the end of Firefox. It was Chrome all the way. New features were coming out one after another. Faster rendering. Safe process isolation for each tab. Looked better. But I just switched back last month. It happened kind of randomly. Saw an announcement of a new release ( 33, I thin…

Hah, I did the same. I've been using Firefox Aurora for about 6 months now, and I don't miss Chrome in the slightest; in fact, I prefer Firefox for nearly everything. Now we've moved to Slack instead of Hangouts, I've never had a reason to open Chrome.
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