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Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#21
post #10

> "As always, if you encounter problems building or using Emacs, please send a report to address@hidden with full details" What's up with "address@hidden"?

There's also M-x report-emacs-bug (also accessible from the menu Help -> Send Bug Report... which (somewhat) automates bug reporting.

It also populates all the information useful for devs.

The reporting address seems to be bug-gnu-emacs at gnu.org

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#22
post #4

As someone who uses emacs purely for clojure/lisp and vim for everything else, the biggest feature for me is the fact that this will be the first version of emacs to support menus in terminal mode . So for all the commands you don't remember, a menu is now a click or F10 away. To quote, "Emacs now supports menus on text-mode terminals. If the terminal supports a mouse, clicking on the menu bar, or on sensitive portio…

Just curious. How did you manage to use both emacs and vim? I've seen that people accustomed to one editor are usually averse to using the other.

I typically use Vim for quick edits on my Mac, and especially on remote boxes.

But for Haskell and Clojure development, it's hard to beat the tight integration features that Emacs provides (e.g. quickly piping your code or a single function to the REPL for testing). Vim is not designed for this; there are plugins available to approximate it, but it’s a bit hacky and nowhere close to Emacs).

Honestly, it's not hard to learn the basics of both. If you're accustomed to Vim commands, Emacs has `evil-mode`. There's also the slick `god-mode`, which is like Vim's Normal mode for Emacs.

Both tools are great in their own ways. Personally, I regularly use and love them both.

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#23
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hehe because I don't subscribe to monotheism? ;) I prefer vim's modal editing mode and have been using it as my primary for as long as I can remember. For clojure/lisp, I found that the vim tooling was just not as elegant/efficient as emacs (fireside et al arent as nice as cider/swank), and decided to learn how to use it. It's not that much of an "antipattern" because the keymaps are very different. I don't like usin…

You might consider checking out evil mode. It's for real. Does not feel like emulation at all.

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Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#24
post #4

As someone who uses emacs purely for clojure/lisp and vim for everything else, the biggest feature for me is the fact that this will be the first version of emacs to support menus in terminal mode . So for all the commands you don't remember, a menu is now a click or F10 away. To quote, "Emacs now supports menus on text-mode terminals. If the terminal supports a mouse, clicking on the menu bar, or on sensitive portio…

Just curious. How did you manage to use both emacs and vim? I've seen that people accustomed to one editor are usually averse to using the other.

I use Evil for that: Vim-style editing in Emacs, best of both worlds.

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#25
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hehe because I don't subscribe to monotheism? ;) I prefer vim's modal editing mode and have been using it as my primary for as long as I can remember. For clojure/lisp, I found that the vim tooling was just not as elegant/efficient as emacs (fireside et al arent as nice as cider/swank), and decided to learn how to use it. It's not that much of an "antipattern" because the keymaps are very different. I don't like usin…

You might consider checking out evil mode. It's for real. Does not feel like emulation at all.

Ah, will check. I'm not sure how it will coexist with all the cider key bindings though?

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious. How did you manage to use both emacs and vim? I've seen that people accustomed to one editor are usually averse to using the other.

I typically use Vim for quick edits on my Mac, and especially on remote boxes. But for Haskell and Clojure development, it's hard to beat the tight integration features that Emacs provides (e.g. quickly piping your code or a single function to the REPL for testing). Vim is not designed for this; there are plugins available to approximate it, but it’s a bit hacky and nowhere close to Emacs). Honestly, it's not hard to…

How about yi (https://github.com/yi-editor/yi)?

I hope some day an editor, written in Haskell, allowing to emulate Vi and and Emacs behaviour will become more appropriate for Haskell programming than any other editor and offer you to either the Vi or Emacs style.

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#27
post #4

As someone who uses emacs purely for clojure/lisp and vim for everything else, the biggest feature for me is the fact that this will be the first version of emacs to support menus in terminal mode . So for all the commands you don't remember, a menu is now a click or F10 away. To quote, "Emacs now supports menus on text-mode terminals. If the terminal supports a mouse, clicking on the menu bar, or on sensitive portio…

Have you tried Helm in Emacs? For me it binds to M-x, and I can find a "lost" command by typing just bits.

For example "M-x tree undo" show me "undo-tree-visualize (C-x u)".

Now I use Helm all over the place: (recent) file opening (within the current project), buffer switching, grepping, etc. It really changed how I interface Emacs.

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#28
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious. How did you manage to use both emacs and vim? I've seen that people accustomed to one editor are usually averse to using the other.

Hehe because I don't subscribe to monotheism? ;) I prefer vim's modal editing mode and have been using it as my primary for as long as I can remember. For clojure/lisp, I found that the vim tooling was just not as elegant/efficient as emacs (fireside et al arent as nice as cider/swank), and decided to learn how to use it. It's not that much of an "antipattern" because the keymaps are very different. I don't like usin…

Can you tell me more about why cider > fireplace? I'm a clojure developer working in vim, I've considered moving over to emacs a few times, and I'd love to hear what you see as the advantages.

Re: Emacs 24.4 RC 1

#29
post #27
post #4

As someone who uses emacs purely for clojure/lisp and vim for everything else, the biggest feature for me is the fact that this will be the first version of emacs to support menus in terminal mode . So for all the commands you don't remember, a menu is now a click or F10 away. To quote, "Emacs now supports menus on text-mode terminals. If the terminal supports a mouse, clicking on the menu bar, or on sensitive portio…

Have you tried Helm in Emacs? For me it binds to M-x, and I can find a "lost" command by typing just bits. For example "M-x tree undo" show me "undo-tree-visualize (C-x u)". Now I use Helm all over the place: (recent) file opening (within the current project), buffer switching, grepping, etc. It really changed how I interface Emacs.

What's the advantage of Helm to Ido?
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