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Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

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Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#21
I don't get it. I don't know what your app does. The app may be interesting and compelling. But there's nothing on the iTunes page that explains what the app does. Why is Katy Perry on the app page? What does she have to do with it? How does a well-known celebrity jive with an anonymous app? Did you get permission to use her likeness? I'm so confused.

Okay? So, just by looking at the box of pizza, you're going to judge that the pizza tastes bad? Jesus Christ man...

Actually, yes, people judge pizza all the time based on factors unrelated to the quality of the product. Why do you think Papa John's, Dominoes, Pizza Hut, etc. spend so much money on advertising?

To extend the analogy, I don't even know what's in the box. Your app could be pizza. Or it could be tuna fish. I have no idea what I'm getting.

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#22
On the app's first screenshot, I'd put pictures that tell someone's story instead of sunsets and clouds (and definitely not any stock photos). If people are to download the app to peek into one's life, that life should be worth peeking into.

Kind of like Secret. Most people download it to read someone else's secrets, not to share their own.

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#23
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I don't have any iOS devices, so I can't download it, but apparently at least one person has downloaded it, as their is a review on the apple store that says the app crashed and never worked on his iOS6 iPhone 4. As far as getting users, why are you coming to HN looking for users? You clearly read HN, you read about how to do PR and pitch, did you miss everything on how to find product market fit? Did you miss everyt…

Yeah, and that's another thing when the app is new. It's kind of a human nature to quickly write a bad review, than a good one. I'm in touch with the App Store on the removal of that review, because it doesn't accurately represent the app's functionality. Back to the main point... I do have 186 broadcasts, and each of these broadcast stories have 1 or more pics. I love taking pics, and sharing with the world, and I h…

i'd say the most damning thing i see here is that you are indeed getting feedback, but your answer is basically "sorry, you people are wrong."

your response to a bad review is to try to get apple to remove it? good luck with that. even if you could, which is doubtful, your response should be to figure out that guy's crash and fix it.

also, why on earth would you exclude the ipod touch? it has a camera, and therefore should be fully equipped to run your app. and i bet you are now going to state a reason for that which as lame as all your other "reasons."

i did much the same thing you did: i wrote an iphone app by myself, and did what i could to promote it. it was a modest hit, and ended up making me about 15 grand. but that was way back at the dawn of the app store, when the competition was less. my not terribly flashy app wouldn't stand a chance today.

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#25
Not every app 'clicks' instantly with users. Sending them directly to itunes might not be the best way to convert them. Have you tried sending folks to a landing page first (so can prime them on the idea, show them a cool video, etc)?

The other advantage of this method is that once users are on your site (instead of the itunes store), you can get better analytics and behavior tracking (to understand when/why/where users are exiting the conversion funnel). Additionally, once your landing page is setup you can run more traditional marketing campaigns (adwords etc) to that site, and try all kinds of different ways to pitch the product to the potential users.

Don't give up man, marketing isn't easy.

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#26
During all the months of work on this, at what point did someone tell you, "I've been looking for something exactly like this."

At the risk of straining the analogy, the pizza might be tasty, and the box might be attractive and functional, but if a pizza delivery guy showed up at your door unexpected and unannounced, would you just pay him, or would you be more likely to say, "I didn't order this."

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#27
Boring icon, stock-photo screenshots, bad description, bad review => nobody will download your app like this.

First, you need to talk to people and have them try out your app. Email your friends. Get them to use the app, at least try it. Get feedback. It's not marketing you're missing, it's product. Good luck!

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#29
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post #4

You need to relax on the analogy. Consider - why does someone look at a box of pizza and decide that it tastes bad? Why does someone looking to buy a watch walk past a jewelry store? From the app preview alone, I can tell you that there is nothing really standing out here. Why do I want to share anonymous pictures of Katy Perry? If I want to share anonymous pictures, I already know of Snapchat. If I want to share ano…

Hmm. The people I've talked to so far think this app has a place, it's not "nothing" definitely. But, I think I do need to work on the pitch more. Clarify it to the point that people can associate them or their lives with the app, and realize why they need to use it. About taking it hard. Believe me, it has been insane the last few weeks. After working so hard, launching this, writing emails and contacting so many pe…

Oh no, don't get me wrong. I didn't mean that you app is "nothing" - I only mean that there isn't anything standing out here. I think something that might help the pitch is to make it more personal. Show how I can quickly share photos from the beach with my family. Don't forget the App Store now supports preview videos as well, that might help.

Re: Not 1 person after all this work? Is a sick joke being played with me?

#30
So here's what "they" don't tell you: building a successful startup -- even by moderate definitions of "successful," such as, "reaching a point that lets you only work 4 hours/week" -- is what economists call a "superstar economy." Kinda like being a musician or a basketball player: 99.99% of the starving artists or guys in the neighborhood playing hoops make $0.00 from it, but one-in-a-million make a killing. There's a small "middle class" in the ecosystem (people who don't strike the goldmind but do just fine) but, for all practical purposes, it's really, really tiny, too.

So, therefore: building your own app and putting it into the app store is helluva lot like trying to make your garage band a big hit. You must remember these three things to start your own band (or your own startup):

1.) Expect your band will never make a dollar. (Similarly, expect the startup to never make a dollar.)

2.) You must love creating music and feel such a deep calling to create that music, that you will obsessively create that music with the band, even remember #1, that your band will never make a dollar. (Yup, you must be so obsessed with your company's mission and vision that you'll do it even expecting it to fail.)

3.) You must be emotionally ready to play the lottery. If you're not emotionally ready for the lottery, stay home.

4.) Similarly, you must instinctively feel like you are blessed by Fortuna, because luck needs to be on your side not just tonight but for the whole journey.

5.) It's a f---load of hardwork to get people to notice what you do, and to get them excited about it. Are you prepared for that overwhelming, intense, nonstop amount of hardwork?

6.) You know what's even harder about the hard work? There's no one to tell you what to do. You don't even know if what you're doing is the right thing or not. There is a way to change what you're doing and create something that will get people peeing in their pants with excitement. But you need to figure it out. No one will tell you, ever. In other words, more painful then 24 hours/day of work is 24 hours/day of work and not even knowing if you're doing the right work....

7.) Unless you happen to have a very strong mentor or model, it makes the incredible amount of hard work still even harder. Jimmy Page was the highest paid studio musician in England before he went to start his own band. He had a series of great mentors to teach him the path. A good mentor will teach you what to listen to and what to ignore. You probably want to ignore this rambling post here.

Okay, 3 minute break over, back to work.... :)

morgan

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