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Remains of Alexander the Great's Father Confirmed Found
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
without Philip , Alexander would not exist Haha, you wouldn't need to know much about history to know that sons would not exist without their fathers ;)
I did not mean it this way.
I'm 99.9% positive argumentum understood your actual meaning and was merely making a play on words.
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#23It's a shame that Philip of Macedon can't get his own billing. He was a legend in his own right before his son overshadowed him.
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#24As someone with a Macedonian background, what bothers me most is my father's reaction to this news when I told him about it. I am legitimately excited about this news, and all he could really think of was if the Greeks would claim Philip II as theirs and began ranting about the whole Alexander being Macedonian/Greek debate. I understand his justification for thinking that way, but it's just sad that the Macedonians a…
You exaggerate , Greeks dont hate you. Some angry, some frustrated , some don't care. As a Greek myself, I don't like to say to other countries what they should name themselves but there is an entire area in Greece already that is called Macedonia that is even more ancient than Alexander himself. So at best case scenario the name is at least an inconvenience for us. Its like France deciding to name itself London, how…
The USA calling itself America and claiming only its citizens can be called Americans, when really all people from Canada to southern Argentina are Americans. Europeans live on the continent of Europe, Africans in Africa, Asians in Asia etc.
People counter with Canada, Mexico etc. are in North America and South America so why isn't the USA the USNA?
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#25All we need now is the blood of his enemy and the flesh of his servant.
Hey, back to work. Some of us are a bit anxious for a few more chapters.
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#26I am always amazed of the tenacity of factual information from past generations to survive. Even though Philip reigned in a historical age, the substrate which carried the stories to future generations has always been quite fragile. Writing is truly the most magical of our inventions, surpassing any others (until at least our AI descendant overlords arrive :) )
Personally I find that modern historians tend to be "jealous" of old historians and are quick to accuse them for misinformation, prejudice and superstition. But again and again the "myths" are proving to be the truth. Obviously not always. We live in an age that we tend to overestimate to great degree of our technology and underestimate the raw power of human mind. The ancients had both the means and the method to pr…
You have to consider that, especially in Roman times, ancient historians tended to produce works at the behest of a sponsor. Assuming that political motivations may twist their objectivity is not a stretch.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally I find that modern historians tend to be "jealous" of old historians and are quick to accuse them for misinformation, prejudice and superstition. But again and again the "myths" are proving to be the truth. Obviously not always. We live in an age that we tend to overestimate to great degree of our technology and underestimate the raw power of human mind. The ancients had both the means and the method to pr…
You have to consider that, especially in Roman times, ancient historians tended to produce works at the behest of a sponsor. Assuming that political motivations may twist their objectivity is not a stretch.
Not only that but sometimes the works that have been preserved the best are obvious political tools. E.g. Julius Cesar's "The Gallic war".
Which, since we are on the topic, I absolutely must suggest as a reading for anyone who has the slightest interest in historical fact - or fiction - for that matter. Yes, the work is political boast about the campaign - but it is filled with juicy details on roman logistics, political action in the region, and so on.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
You exaggerate , Greeks dont hate you. Some angry, some frustrated , some don't care. As a Greek myself, I don't like to say to other countries what they should name themselves but there is an entire area in Greece already that is called Macedonia that is even more ancient than Alexander himself. So at best case scenario the name is at least an inconvenience for us. Its like France deciding to name itself London, how…
The USA calling itself America and claiming only its citizens can be called Americans, when really all people from Canada to southern Argentina are Americans. Europeans live on the continent of Europe, Africans in Africa, Asians in Asia etc. People counter with Canada, Mexico etc. are in North America and South America so why isn't the USA the USNA?
why isn't the USA the USNA
Even if you include the southern continent, there's no similar collection-of-states, so the USA is just as accurate as the USNA.
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#29As someone with a Macedonian background, what bothers me most is my father's reaction to this news when I told him about it. I am legitimately excited about this news, and all he could really think of was if the Greeks would claim Philip II as theirs and began ranting about the whole Alexander being Macedonian/Greek debate. I understand his justification for thinking that way, but it's just sad that the Macedonians a…
Nationalism is an infantile disease: the measles of mankind. - Einstein
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#30I guess they could distinguish his father's remains from those of a slave. Checkmate, Diogenes.
To be fair on him, Diogenes never said they couldn't, he said he couldn't.