21–30 of 487 posts
[deleted]
Because what has happened to Lennart is pretty horrible.
Linus's approach is a cultural thing.
I'm also reasonably sure that Lennart Poettering's experience does not generalize. He is rather unique within the Linux community.
s/Open Source community/human race/
It's easy to see that in some quarters this is certainly true. People are allowed —even encouraged— to smack people down if they're being ridiculous... But this isn't the rule. http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct As an Ubuntu member, I'm expected to behave. In our derivative communities, we try to ensure that people adhere to these principles too. Ask Ubuntu (part of Stack Exchange, not Canonical), for e…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because what has happened to Lennart is pretty horrible.
What he's done to many people's systems, mine included, is pretty horrible. He doesn't deserve death threats. But users should be able to opt out of his software, and he's deliberately making that as hard as possible.
Maybe one reaps what one sows.
> in particular ones where losing face is a major issue This touches an interesting point. Feedback must be accurate. If you are actually provably wrong, I am not doing you a favor by telling you you that you are "not right". Losing face is a fact of life. When I'm wrong, I want to know I am wrong, what I am wrong about and just how wrong am I. If possible, tell me what can I do to be right the next time. It must als…
>If you are actually provably wrong, I am not doing you a favor by telling you you that you are "not right". Saying "you're wrong" isn't the issue here. Saying "your mom should have aborted you and i hope you die" is the issue. I don't think people in cultures where losing face is a big issue much care if they're told they're wrong. They care is they're told they are so wrong they should kill themselves or be killed.…
This. Absolutely. The issue is the personal attacks. I've considered delving more deeply into the linux world, but why would I want to willingly go into a place where my constitution is insulted by those who know little-to-nothing of my constitution, let alone my character.
To the individual who commented on the fact that "time is a limited resource" ... so are intelligent people. That you would sacrifice a person (sacrifice them from your project, or committing to your work) by insulting them shows me to avoid your organization.
Coming from almost anyone else this might be reasonable, but him? Just pointing out someone else is an asshole does not negate you being an asshole.
Honestly, it's people like him and the systemd noise on all sides that have made me lose faith in Linux. By contrast Linus has git too, which is potentially as big a contribution as Linux was in the first place. History may even demonstrate git is the more important contribution, because as it stands Linux as a potential platform for end user deployment, except as part of Android or Chrome OS, is basically dead now.