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Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#21

Post by scourge »

forgotpasswd3x wrote: post #19
joeclark77 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the USA you're still allowed to homeschool, at least. In many other countries, such as Germany, that makes you a criminal.

Ok, I'll take the bait. Why shouldn't it? Germany has very good schools. By denying your child the ability to attend, you are committing an offense to the child. Why should this be allowed?

I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse).

The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bunch of criminals. Also see Steiner schools, unschooling etc etc. The evidence would indicate that doing the BEST thing for your children would make you a criminal in most first world states. If you wonder why the electorate has become more malleable, "stupid" and gullible in the last 100 years, maybe you should look into why this is. It's not because we are "devolving" or because people are stupider now. They are forced, trained and educated to be thus.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

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Post by userulluipeste »

scourge wrote: post #21
forgotpasswd3x wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, I'll take the bait. Why shouldn't it? Germany has very good schools. By denying your child the ability to attend, you are committing an offense to the child. Why should this be allowed?

I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse). The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bu…

Its an interesting take on German Education. However, people admire Germany and Germans for results and for how they function as a society. Doesn't this in itself excuse the bad consequences?

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#23

Post by scourge »

userulluipeste wrote: post #22
scourge wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse). The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bu…

Its an interesting take on German Education. However, people admire Germany and Germans for results and for how they function as a society. Doesn't this in itself excuse the bad consequences?

It depends: is one comparing to the average society or full human potential?

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#24

Post by joeclark77 »

userulluipeste wrote: post #22
scourge wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse). The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bu…

Its an interesting take on German Education. However, people admire Germany and Germans for results and for how they function as a society. Doesn't this in itself excuse the bad consequences?

Imagine if you had said that in 1938 or so. Most of the American left was saying just that sort of thing then, too.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

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Post by joeclark77 »

forgotpasswd3x wrote: post #19
joeclark77 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the USA you're still allowed to homeschool, at least. In many other countries, such as Germany, that makes you a criminal.

Ok, I'll take the bait. Why shouldn't it? Germany has very good schools. By denying your child the ability to attend, you are committing an offense to the child. Why should this be allowed?

Germany isn't arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families for poor test scores. They're arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families because they're Christian. Google the Romeike family (who escaped) and the Wunderlich family (who didn't) for some examples.

Also, a shorter answer to your question: Because Germany signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. See Article 26(3).

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#26

Post by mattfrommars »

anonbanker wrote: post #15
jensv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

Beijing is now the global center of finance and industry. I bet on Tokyo, and learned Japanese. By the time I was old enough to make an impact, the market had shifted to Beijing/Shenzhen. Calgary is an interesting place to live, with gorgeous women of many different ethnicities. There's currently a gold rush going on there, and relocating as to get in on that sweet environmental destruction would have been a good ide…

So I should move to Beijing if I want to have a startup related to finance?

What benefits do financial capitals even offer other then finding companies if you are looking for life/health/car/etc insurance.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

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Post by atmosx »

The best city in the world, as life quality goes, is Vienna.

That said, Vienna requires you to have good education and money to enjoy the city, more than (almost) any other city. I don't know nothing about the Austrian healthcare system though.

Copenhagen is a good choice for sure. Norway and Sweden are extremely well suited when it comes to education and healthcare but the weather might get you depressed in the long run.

I would also have a look at Tallin (Estonia) given it's drive for technology, might be a future technology hub (Something like Tel-Aviv with less cultural restrictions).

First choice is Vienna though.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#28

Post by hackerboos »

joeclark77 wrote: post #9
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Likely within the "Europe" (particularly the UK) but maybe Canada. As a small time employer they take a lot of the employees issues out of your hands and place it in the hands of the state (which is GOOD because now I won't need a HR person, insurance specialist, and so on). For example, health insurance: not the employer's problem, long term/short term disability: not the employer's problem, holiday ("vacation") tim…

That's like boarding the Titanic when it's already sinking. Europe won't even exist in 50 years. The demographics are brutal and inevitable: young Europeans are not marrying, or marrying late, not having children, or having only one or two children, and having them late. They're rapidly being replaced by immigrants who have no interest in assimilating to the culture or adopting the language, but are having lots of ch…

> Europe won't even exist in 50 years. The demographics are brutal and inevitable: young Europeans are not marrying, or marrying late, not having children, or having only one or two children, and having them late. They're rapidly being replaced by immigrants who have no interest in assimilating to the culture or adopting the language, but are having lots of children.

Hyperbole and xenophobia in one comment.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#29

Post by hkarthik »

joeclark77 wrote: post #9
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Likely within the "Europe" (particularly the UK) but maybe Canada. As a small time employer they take a lot of the employees issues out of your hands and place it in the hands of the state (which is GOOD because now I won't need a HR person, insurance specialist, and so on). For example, health insurance: not the employer's problem, long term/short term disability: not the employer's problem, holiday ("vacation") tim…

That's like boarding the Titanic when it's already sinking. Europe won't even exist in 50 years. The demographics are brutal and inevitable: young Europeans are not marrying, or marrying late, not having children, or having only one or two children, and having them late. They're rapidly being replaced by immigrants who have no interest in assimilating to the culture or adopting the language, but are having lots of ch…

Immigrants in Europe often don't assimilate because the host countries don't provide a path to citizenship for them or their children. Once the native populations fall to critical levels, I suspect these practices will change. Once it does, then the situation may reverse itself.

Re: Ask HN: If you were 20 again, what country would you choose?

#30

Post by Gustomaximus »

anonbanker wrote: post #15
jensv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

Beijing is now the global center of finance and industry. I bet on Tokyo, and learned Japanese. By the time I was old enough to make an impact, the market had shifted to Beijing/Shenzhen. Calgary is an interesting place to live, with gorgeous women of many different ethnicities. There's currently a gold rush going on there, and relocating as to get in on that sweet environmental destruction would have been a good ide…

Shanghai is more of a business & financial center than Beijing. Beijing is more government focused. Also Hong Kong is a bigger financial/trade center than both these cities.
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