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I Had a Stroke at 33

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Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by bshimmin »

meritt wrote: post #16
sergiotapia wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why, people enjoy the other types of articles - why should they not cater to them as well?

Because we associate BuzzFeed with bullshit clickbait spam. It makes it difficult for an article to reach the right audience when you have such a large amount of negative association with a particular brand. It'd be like if the supermarket tabloids starting include well-written and legitimate content. It's going to take a substantial amount of work to win over the millions of people who view them exclusively as a tab…

Exactly.

I don't even know how you'd find this article on Buzzfeed - the homepage is so obnoxiously cluttered with vapidness ("21 Hashtags All Curvy Girls Really Need") I only lasted about five seconds. It's like a parody of everything that's awful, only it's real.

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

bshimmin wrote: post #21
meritt wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we associate BuzzFeed with bullshit clickbait spam. It makes it difficult for an article to reach the right audience when you have such a large amount of negative association with a particular brand. It'd be like if the supermarket tabloids starting include well-written and legitimate content. It's going to take a substantial amount of work to win over the millions of people who view them exclusively as a tab…

Exactly. I don't even know how you'd find this article on Buzzfeed - the homepage is so obnoxiously cluttered with vapidness ("21 Hashtags All Curvy Girls Really Need") I only lasted about five seconds. It's like a parody of everything that's awful, only it's real.

If you want a parody of the parody then clickhole.com is awesome - it's the sibling site to The Onion.

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by eragone »

Strokes can present in truly any number of ways. The Cincinnati Stroke Scale, often seen in public health campaigns as "FAST", provides three simple, quick assessments that can reliably delineate a majority of strokes. It is the standard for basic EMTs as well. More advanced providers should perform a more comprehensive exam, testing all the cranial nerves (actually usually just II through XII). A more formalized, advanced stroke scale is the NIH stroke scale: http://stroke.nih.gov/documents/NIH_Stroke_Scale.pdf

While there are often some kind of neurologic deficit associated with a stroke, the goal standard is, of course, a CT or CTA that should be administered immediately upon arrival in the ED of a suspected stroke (depending on the presentation of symptoms an exam by a neurologist may occur first).

The symptoms described in this story would absolutely make me think this person was having a stroke if she had verbalized them to someone with my training.

It's also worthwhile to point out that the person having a stroke may not realize they are having a stroke. People may have the obvious symptoms - slurred speech and hemiparesis - and refuse to acknowledge that these problems exist, because, in their mind, they don't.

If you think someone is having a stroke, record the time you first noticed symptoms and call 911 immediately.

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by mkal_tsr »

dang wrote: post #17
diestl wrote: post #13

Not sure what this has got to do with programming?

Intellectually interesting stories on all topics have been welcome here ever since PG changed the site name from "Startup News" in 2007: https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html By the way, if anybody wants a hit of meta, it's astonishing how precisely the last five paragraphs there still apply.

> The focus of Hacker News is going to be anything that good hackers would find interesting

How are we defining "good hacker" ?

> It doesn't include most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

Can a "good hacker" be curious and intellectually satisfied by political stories even if they don't include new phenomenon?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the article. However, if we're saying, "this is on topic for HN" or "this is off topic for HN" it seems weird to have a definition that is 100% dependent on one's lived experiences and what they individually find interesting. Maybe someone really really likes cat pictures because of the color or makeup of the fur, or the instincts of felines. Maybe someone finds geopolitical discussions about surveillance states to be intellectually uninteresting because they feel helpless to affect reform. Or they feel most startups are void of substance and rely too much on VC funding and thus are not intellectually interesting.

I guess I'm looking for a bit more of an enumerated "this is acceptable" and "this is not" as opposed to "you'll know it when you see it."

Thoughts? Thanks!

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by zo1 »

bshimmin wrote: post #21
meritt wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we associate BuzzFeed with bullshit clickbait spam. It makes it difficult for an article to reach the right audience when you have such a large amount of negative association with a particular brand. It'd be like if the supermarket tabloids starting include well-written and legitimate content. It's going to take a substantial amount of work to win over the millions of people who view them exclusively as a tab…

Exactly. I don't even know how you'd find this article on Buzzfeed - the homepage is so obnoxiously cluttered with vapidness ("21 Hashtags All Curvy Girls Really Need") I only lasted about five seconds. It's like a parody of everything that's awful, only it's real.

Just an FYI: Currently, this article is on the front page of buzzfeed. Perhaps, for a brief time, we've made a genuinely good and interesting article bubble up their internal rankings?

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by enraged_camel »

dang wrote: post #17
diestl wrote: post #13

Not sure what this has got to do with programming?

Intellectually interesting stories on all topics have been welcome here ever since PG changed the site name from "Startup News" in 2007: https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html By the way, if anybody wants a hit of meta, it's astonishing how precisely the last five paragraphs there still apply.

I feel like this should be "stickied" at the top navbar.

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by nemothekid »

mkal_tsr wrote: post #25
dang wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intellectually interesting stories on all topics have been welcome here ever since PG changed the site name from "Startup News" in 2007: https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html By the way, if anybody wants a hit of meta, it's astonishing how precisely the last five paragraphs there still apply.

> The focus of Hacker News is going to be anything that good hackers would find interesting How are we defining "good hacker" ? > It doesn't include most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Can a "good hacker" be curious and intellectually satisfied by political stories even if they don't include new phenomenon ? Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the ar…

>Maybe someone really really likes cat pictures because of the color or makeup of the fur, or the instincts of felines.

If someone posted an article that went into depth about the make up of color and fur and the development on instincts of felines, I don't think the community would object to such an article.

Just posting a picture however, is just lazy.

Re: I Had a Stroke at 33

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Post by dang »

mkal_tsr wrote: post #25
dang wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intellectually interesting stories on all topics have been welcome here ever since PG changed the site name from "Startup News" in 2007: https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html By the way, if anybody wants a hit of meta, it's astonishing how precisely the last five paragraphs there still apply.

> The focus of Hacker News is going to be anything that good hackers would find interesting How are we defining "good hacker" ? > It doesn't include most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Can a "good hacker" be curious and intellectually satisfied by political stories even if they don't include new phenomenon ? Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the ar…

I don't think "defining" captures what we can do. "Meandering around" is more like it. But here are a couple observations.

A semi-objective thing about most of the uninteresting, non-HN-appropriate stories is how predictable they are, i.e. how repetitive of previous instances of the type. The more predictable a story is, the less information it adds and the less interesting it is.

There's a reason we say "intellectually interesting" to describe the stories HN wants. There are different kinds of interesting. For example, we all have an interest in the things we're personally invested in or identify with, but that is not intellectual interest.

Similarly, as humans we're highly interested in what other humans are up to, but that kind of social curiosity—think gossip and celebrity news—is not intellectual interest either. So a story can be interesting without being a good fit for HN, quite apart from not all having intellectual interests in common.

Maybe this explains why upvotes alone don't work for a site like HN. We upvote the things that excite our interest. It's too much work to pause and ask ourselves what kind of interest we're experiencing. And the non-intellectual kinds have an advantage—they require less attention to get excited. (For one thing, they rely on recognition, while intellectual interest relies on curiosity, which is an absence of recognition.) This is compounded on the internet, where attention is fleeting and fragmentary.

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