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Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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"decimate", so they reduced it by 10%?

Interestingly, asking Google to define "decimate" returns a modern definition, "kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of", and a historical one, "kill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment for the whole group".

The English language has apparently moved on.

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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> The new companies, unlike taxi operators, have lesser insurance requirements, no restrictions on the number of vehicles they put on the streets, no clean-air standards and less-stringent background checks. There are clean air standards for taxis? I'm not sure how well they work, since about half of the taxis I have taken recently (worldwide) have had the engine light on, indicating a likely emissions problem. Since…

https://energycenter.org/programs/clean-cab-partnership

http://www.sfenvironment.org/news/press-release/san-francisc...

http://www.sfmayor.org/?page=684

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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Usually I feel bad for traditional businesses quickly displaced by emerging startups. However, I've been in too many cabs where the driver is constantly on the phone while driving, abusing the speed limit, slamming on the breaks every 8 seconds, foul odors, dirty vehicles, roundabout routes, the list goes on. Good riddance.

Amen to that. Living here in SF, the customer service aspect of cabs is appalling. I'm tired of getting dirty looks for paying with a credit card, having cabs with their light on and nobody in them drive right by me, playing the "where are you going" game, drivers talking on phones, and general surliness. The day the industry unionized, that pushed me over the edge. I'm now 100% using Uber to get around and my only r…

Don't forget: Uber and Uber's drivers have been responsible for children's deaths, interfering with the normal course of competitor's business, stuffing blind persons' service dogs in the trunk, price gouging during states of emergencies. All on top of a proprietary, unpublished 'surge pricing' algorithm.

I know you think taxis are the devil, but Uber's behavior as a parent company has been downright heinous.

Personally, I avoid supporting them, whenever possible, and go with better-acting players in the market like Lyft and Sidecar.

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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> Among biggest impacts of the ride services has been the drop in taxi rides taken by people in ramp taxis, which carry people in wheelchairs. As the ride services have grown and the number of cabs has diminished, so has the availability of wheelchair-accessible taxis, which are costlier to operate. That's certainly a negative effect, but why would it result from the rise of ridesharing services? If taxi companies ne…

It's worth pointing out that they seem to have a monopoly in handicapped transport too. Not saying this is a major plus and not saying it's a profitable market, but they can at least use it to their advantage in marketing and courts.

It's not only not a major plus, it's a minus.

Traditional taxi companies are forced by regulators to provide less profitable accessible transport in exchange for being given a monopoly on taxi services. Part of the way that Uber is undercutting the taxi companies is by not providing services to the disabled (or at least not without added cost).

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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post #7

> The new companies, unlike taxi operators, have lesser insurance requirements, no restrictions on the number of vehicles they put on the streets, no clean-air standards and less-stringent background checks. There are clean air standards for taxis? I'm not sure how well they work, since about half of the taxis I have taken recently (worldwide) have had the engine light on, indicating a likely emissions problem. Since…

> had the engine light on, indicating a likely emissions problem.

Is that true? I thought the engine light could be for many things and only a few of them emissions related? (true for the European cars I've owned, anyway)

edit: actually, I guess, many of the faults are probably directly, or indirectly, likely to result in an emissions change.

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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post #16
post #8

> Among biggest impacts of the ride services has been the drop in taxi rides taken by people in ramp taxis, which carry people in wheelchairs. As the ride services have grown and the number of cabs has diminished, so has the availability of wheelchair-accessible taxis, which are costlier to operate. That's certainly a negative effect, but why would it result from the rise of ridesharing services? If taxi companies ne…

I am sure there will soon be uber accessible.

In many places it may not be profitable enough for transportation companies to voluntarily offer it. That would explain why the regulator was forcing some taxis to have this capability.

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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post #7

> The new companies, unlike taxi operators, have lesser insurance requirements, no restrictions on the number of vehicles they put on the streets, no clean-air standards and less-stringent background checks. There are clean air standards for taxis? I'm not sure how well they work, since about half of the taxis I have taken recently (worldwide) have had the engine light on, indicating a likely emissions problem. Since…

https://energycenter.org/programs/clean-cab-partnership http://www.sfenvironment.org/news/press-release/san-francisc... http://www.sfmayor.org/?page=684

Was just going to site that last one:

2/8/12

"Today 92 percent of the taxi fleet is comprised of hybrid or CNG vehicles. There are 1,318 alternative fuel vehicles out of a total of 1,432 eligible vehicles. CNG vehicles account for 89 of those and the hybrids account for 1,229."

Re: Ride services decimate S.F. taxi industry's business

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post #20

"decimate", so they reduced it by 10%?

Interestingly, asking Google to define "decimate" returns a modern definition, "kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of", and a historical one, "kill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment for the whole group". The English language has apparently moved on.

look at the word root, deci - like decimal, decimeter, etc.
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