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Are dolphins cleverer than dogs?
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
and octopus?
I don't know if there is any truth to this, but I have heard that octopus have a "different" sort of intelligence than we are used to. It's more innate to them, so they are capable of learning much less but they have some very advanced "pre-baked" capabilities.
Most of what I've seen is that they have fairly amazing learning ability when it comes to problem solving, and also when it comes to applying observations of other octopi solving problems (e.g., an octopus can figure out how to work mechanical things that pose barriers to food, and one octopus can watch another octopus work such an mechanism once to learn how to do it themselves.)
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#23It seems to me that a lot of wild animals are smarter than dogs. Dogs' main ability is to "connect" to us and rad our intentions. On the other hand they are dependent on us and probably not very good at surviving in the wild.
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#24> For decades now, dolphins and dogs have vied for the title of most intelligent animal. According to what source? What are chimpanzees, chopped liver?
I think chimpanzees are just far less familiar to most people that dogs (obviously) and dolphins.
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#25Is "cleverer" a word?
You are more clever than the OP.
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#26Comparing intelligence in animals is such a hard thing to do when we barely understand it in ourselves. As they say in the article, we frequently consider dolphins more intelligent because they are more sociable and exhibit similar characteristics to us. An easy (although not necessarily correct) way to define intelligence could just be the ability to learn, although even this can be hard to define. Some animals can…
Another problem in "dog intelligence" is that a lot of it is misconstrued with obedience. Sure, dog A and dog B both understood the command you issued; and the one that gets labelled as "intelligent" is the dog that chose to follow that direction versus the other dog who made up his own mind as to what to do. Most scent hounds are perfect examples of this. They never have high representations at obedience competition…
You are absolutely right. I heard on one of the 9/11 shows there was a very limited number of dogs capable of working at that type of scene searching for people/bodies. And by limited I think it was like At home I have a rottweiler(ruby) and she is really smart and obedient. She is driven by life. If that makes sense. My brother a has a doberman and the dogs hang out all day every day, but the doberman is driven by food. When we used to have the doberman at the junk yard she would run around through broken glass and other stuff and always be fine. I can teach both dogs any trick in the world, but the doberman has this innate unexplainable overriding intelligence through problem solving. It's pretty cool.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dogs have specifically been breeding to perform these tasks, while dolphins just can do it "out of the box". Also i suspect killer whales would out do dolphins in many tasks, especially those requiring social intelligence and language. Maybe elephants wouldn't do much worse either, but they were probably too difficult to study because of their size.
Dogs have been bred to perform these tasks, but they've also evolved to become dependent on humans. If humans had never entered the situation, who knows where the intelligence of other animals would be.
I think wolves and foxes give us a good picture of what dogs would be like without human intervention.
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#29(I know this isn't cool, but Ob Onion: http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-dolphins-not-so-intel...)
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#30Can someone post a TLDR?
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