So the algorithm has imagination. heh.
Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
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Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#22I tested those "cloud face" in the popular face recognition engine rekognition.com. None of them actually got recognized as face. Looks like the face recognition algorithm they uses are pretty smart.
If you upload the image of the overall piece (the one with an out-of-focus head looking towards it) 2 of the cloud faces are recognized as faces. The other image of the piece taken at a more skewed angle with no head blocking it actually recognizes 3 of the panels as faces.
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The funny thing about seeing false faces (or patterns in general, really) is that scale (and to some degree composition) matters, even for us humans. When I look at the large picture of the cloud that is the first one presented in the article at 100% scaling, I struggle to see any sort of meaningful face. But when I locate that same image as a panel on the overall work in a smaller scaled down presentation I see the 'face' immediately. With a browser that can appropriately scale down to 25% or less I can see the same thing happening with the actual large source images... once I hit about 50% scaling I can see the "faces" that the computer recognized.
Obviously YMMV depending upon monitor size vs dpi as to where they stop being clouds and start being faces.
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Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#24I tested those "cloud face" in the popular face recognition engine rekognition.com. None of them actually got recognized as face. Looks like the face recognition algorithm they uses are pretty smart.
If you upload the image of the overall piece (the one with an out-of-focus head looking towards it) 2 of the cloud faces are recognized as faces. The other image of the piece taken at a more skewed angle with no head blocking it actually recognizes 3 of the panels as faces. See: http://imgur.com/afUsGGj The funny thing about seeing false faces (or patterns in general, really) is that scale (and to some degree composi…
yeah, those clouds looks totally like drawing of faces.
Looks like the face of a statue in the museum.
Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#25Far more interesting is their facial-captcha project: http://ssbkyh.com/works/fadtcha/ They assume that a computer will detect faces where humans do not and use such a selection as a captcha. It forces the computer to make a random guess against its matches so there is still a chance of it getting the right answer, but it's an interesting concept.
A lot of artistic value, but not so many practical applications.
To bypass this, a bot can simply be tweaked to draw a frame shifted of x and y pixels in any direction after correctly guessing a face. The system will see no match with the non-detectable-by-a-human face and therefore it will think the bot is a human.
Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#26> ‘Cloud Face’ is a collection of cloud images that are recognized as human face by a face-detection algorithm. It is a result of computer’s vision error, but they often look like faces to human eyes, too. This work attempts to examine the relation between computer vision and human vision.
Is it really computer error? Most of us probably saw the face of Einstein in the one cloud photo, because in fact there was a strong resemblance. If a artist paints a caricature or abstract image we can often identify the original subject. That's not error. There is something else going on here.
Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#27> ‘Cloud Face’ is a collection of cloud images that are recognized as human face by a face-detection algorithm. It is a result of computer’s vision error, but they often look like faces to human eyes, too. This work attempts to examine the relation between computer vision and human vision.
Is it really computer error? Most of us probably saw the face of Einstein in the one cloud photo, because in fact there was a strong resemblance. If a artist paints a caricature or abstract image we can often identify the original subject. That's not error. There is something else going on here.
It is an error in a sense that these are not in fact faces, but clouds. While humans also can see shapes of faces in clouds, we are capable of understanding that these are not real faces. Computer algorithm is not capable of recognizing the difference which results in such misclassification, thus it is failing its intended purpose.
Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#28We do tend to "see" patterns that associate to built-in or learned abstractions, such as faces (or elephants, etc.) in clouds. This is especially the case when social reinforcement is a factor, like when someone points skyward and asks, "don't you see a face in that cloud?" and soon everyone standing nearby agrees it sure looks like a face. That computers are "fooled" may simply reflect their human programming, thoug…
> It's amusing the way FACE-DETECTION in my spiffy digital camera (an Olympus EM1) will find faces in all kinds of inanimate objects.
They set out to specifically look for faces. So that's what they'll find.
Re: Cloud images that are recognized as human faces by a face-detection algorithm
#29This one is interesting too... http://ssbkyh.com/works/cat_human/ " Human faces recognized as a cat face by a cat face-detection algorithm" and "Cat faces recognized as a human face by a human face-detection algorithm"
A lot of Serious Cats got recognized as humans...
Aren't there entire websites devoted to this?
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't sound right. You suggest if you give the computer something that looks like a face, then add a filter, it has somehow created an idea on its own. Yet you are still telling the computer what to do, it has done nothing creative on its own. I'd venture that real "creativity" is the reverse ... the ability to create something that is recognizable as a face.
No. I suggest giving the thing noise . Give it lots of noise. Let it find its own face. Let it find several, and let it score the ones it thinks are the best. Then maybe toss those at another NN that's been trained on cartoon faces. Let it modify this noise-face so that it's more cartoonish. And just keep iterating through it like that. > it has somehow created an idea on its own. Can we please grow up. Creative peop…
There's an entire branch of computer science devoted to studying creativity and computation. Google Prof Geraint Wiggins for some examples.
His ideas about this are a bit more thoughtful and insightful than 'exploring a finite ideaspace.'