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Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by legohead »

ianstallings wrote: post #17
jrockway wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard investment bank titles. At BofA, where I worked, the progression was Officer -> Assistant VP -> VP -> Director -> Managing Director. In the software world, this is something like SWE II, SWE III, Senior SWE, Staff SWE, Senior Staff SWE. The titles in the software world don't make much sense either.

Man somedays I am just so happy to work for startups. I get to choose my own title. My last one was lead guitar, but it ended up confusing people so I changed it to just "lead". My current one is "software guy". Edit: Oh sorry, I didn't know this was a serious topic, for serious discussion only. I'll just take my awesome title and go live it up, doing what the fuck I want. Have fun filling out your TPS reports.

This isn't reddit. HN is serious business.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by bushido »

ianstallings wrote: post #19
jmsdnns wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how Bear Stearns was when I was there, 26, and a VP. The title is pegged to the salary, not responsibilities.

Serious question, does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? People seem to be very particular about titles. Edit: Why did someone down vote me for asking a question? Don't be so goddam sensitive .

> does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles?

Doesn't make the job search harder within the financial industry. In my experience the majority people are recruited/courted extensively for positions in the industry, hence it's not quite a "job search" in the majority of the cases.

On the other hand, if they could choose other titles, on the lines of "lead guitar" they may have trouble with job search. People generally seem to be very particular about industry-based titles.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by kasey_junk »

ianstallings wrote: post #19
jmsdnns wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how Bear Stearns was when I was there, 26, and a VP. The title is pegged to the salary, not responsibilities.

Serious question, does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? People seem to be very particular about titles. Edit: Why did someone down vote me for asking a question? Don't be so goddam sensitive .

This doesn't come up much for me as I tend to come into places via reccomendation, but when I do deal with it, I just craft my resume to the expectations of the prospective job.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by ianstallings »

legohead wrote: post #21
ianstallings wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man somedays I am just so happy to work for startups. I get to choose my own title. My last one was lead guitar, but it ended up confusing people so I changed it to just "lead". My current one is "software guy". Edit: Oh sorry, I didn't know this was a serious topic, for serious discussion only. I'll just take my awesome title and go live it up, doing what the fuck I want. Have fun filling out your TPS reports.

This isn't reddit. HN is serious business.

The funny thing is I was being serious. I guess people just didn't like what I said. So then I turned it up a notch with the edit. Because, well, I am who I am.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by jtfairbank »

ianstallings wrote: post #17
jrockway wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard investment bank titles. At BofA, where I worked, the progression was Officer -> Assistant VP -> VP -> Director -> Managing Director. In the software world, this is something like SWE II, SWE III, Senior SWE, Staff SWE, Senior Staff SWE. The titles in the software world don't make much sense either.

Man somedays I am just so happy to work for startups. I get to choose my own title. My last one was lead guitar, but it ended up confusing people so I changed it to just "lead". My current one is "software guy". Edit: Oh sorry, I didn't know this was a serious topic, for serious discussion only. I'll just take my awesome title and go live it up, doing what the fuck I want. Have fun filling out your TPS reports.

I was thinking of assigning everyone a fun title, and specific responsibilities to go along with it. For example, a staff member who worked as a barista in a former life could be the "Caffeine Queen" and make delicious caffeinated drinks for our team (only if she wanted to and time permitted, of course). Or I would be Senior VP of silly hats, and ensure everyone has access to a hat incase they needed to change their identity in a hurry.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by HCIdivision17 »

ianstallings wrote: post #17
jrockway wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standard investment bank titles. At BofA, where I worked, the progression was Officer -> Assistant VP -> VP -> Director -> Managing Director. In the software world, this is something like SWE II, SWE III, Senior SWE, Staff SWE, Senior Staff SWE. The titles in the software world don't make much sense either.

Man somedays I am just so happy to work for startups. I get to choose my own title. My last one was lead guitar, but it ended up confusing people so I changed it to just "lead". My current one is "software guy". Edit: Oh sorry, I didn't know this was a serious topic, for serious discussion only. I'll just take my awesome title and go live it up, doing what the fuck I want. Have fun filling out your TPS reports.

I got a kick out of my first plant job. HR manager asked me what title my position was, I shrugged, "Process Engineer?" And thus became such.

It's fascinating how titles can be both so important legally (i.e. In this article) or irrelevant (everyday life?)

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by kevinskii »

ianstallings wrote: post #19
jmsdnns wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how Bear Stearns was when I was there, 26, and a VP. The title is pegged to the salary, not responsibilities.

Serious question, does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? People seem to be very particular about titles. Edit: Why did someone down vote me for asking a question? Don't be so goddam sensitive .

I downvoted your question because it contributes nothing to the discussion at hand and is unlikely to lead to any interesting side topic. That's all. Don't be so goddamn sensitive.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by vinceguidry »

ianstallings wrote: post #24
legohead wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't reddit. HN is serious business.

The funny thing is I was being serious. I guess people just didn't like what I said. So then I turned it up a notch with the edit. Because, well, I am who I am.

I'm pretty sure legohead was being facetious.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

#29

Post by ianstallings »

kevinskii wrote: post #27
ianstallings wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? People seem to be very particular about titles. Edit: Why did someone down vote me for asking a question? Don't be so goddam sensitive .

I downvoted your question because it contributes nothing to the discussion at hand and is unlikely to lead to any interesting side topic. That's all. Don't be so goddamn sensitive.

But it does add to the discussion. It's a serious question about titles, pomp and circumstance, and it's repercussions on one's chosen career. As for interesting discussion, uh, look below. Sensitive Susan.

Re: Sergey Aleynikov Loses in Goldman Fight Over Fees

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Post by ianstallings »

bushido wrote: post #22
ianstallings wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? People seem to be very particular about titles. Edit: Why did someone down vote me for asking a question? Don't be so goddam sensitive .

> does that make your job search harder when you leave to a place that doesn't hand out VP titles? Doesn't make the job search harder within the financial industry. In my experience the majority people are recruited/courted extensively for positions in the industry, hence it's not quite a "job search" in the majority of the cases. On the other hand, if they could choose other titles, on the lines of "lead guitar" the…

I agree, with such a stupid title as "lead guitar" people would never know how important I am and they might not court me. Which I am dying to do. I hope to have one day a whole wall filled with titles, certificates, and bonafides that I can point to and say "look at all those pieces of paper". Because writing software, well that's just a distraction from my real job - getting important titles..
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