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Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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Even if it can't it still can be incredibly valuable in a lot of climates where it operates well most of the time(ie most of California at this point). Most people don't travel very far and where they do is probably well mapped. Google could solve a small percentage of the problem and still win.

From the source: "Data from multiple passes by a special sensor vehicle must later be pored over, meter by meter, by both computers and humans. It’s vastly more effort than what’s needed for Google Maps." In other words, the mapping required is very specific and doesn't exist. Current maps don't help.

I took a couple of other things away from that:

"We know how to make these maps, we just haven't made them yet"

"We can still see ways to improve this process"

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All self-driving technology I am aware of is based on visual input (cameras, lasers, etc.). I'm not sure self-driving cars can get as good as human drivers without any audio input. Noises are an extremely important source of information, especially in critical situations. I guess that a startup focusing on converting audio input into 3D-data (e.g. "truck approaching from behind") could become very valuable.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the source: "Data from multiple passes by a special sensor vehicle must later be pored over, meter by meter, by both computers and humans. It’s vastly more effort than what’s needed for Google Maps." In other words, the mapping required is very specific and doesn't exist. Current maps don't help.

I took a couple of other things away from that: "We know how to make these maps, we just haven't made them yet" "We can still see ways to improve this process"

I think the goal would be not to need those special maps at all. (In the long run).

In any case, no-one is disputing that driverless cars are coming. Just reminding the over-zealous that there are real obstacles to overcome.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #4

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Exactly what i was thinking. The article seemed to me as needless bashing, thr priduct isnt on the market, its still in developement. How scared of google is the author?

Or maybe the author heard Google hype like 'no steering wheel' and 'no accidents in 700k miles', did the reporter thing of doing research and found out that it's as close to a streetcar as a fully driverless car, and wrote a story on it.

And by "research", you mean the reporter read the Technology Review article...

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #22

All self-driving technology I am aware of is based on visual input (cameras, lasers, etc.). I'm not sure self-driving cars can get as good as human drivers without any audio input. Noises are an extremely important source of information, especially in critical situations. I guess that a startup focusing on converting audio input into 3D-data (e.g. "truck approaching from behind") could become very valuable.

What are examples of situations in which audio input provides relevant information that 360 degree video input doesn't? Humans rely on hearing because our visual arc is only about ~120 degrees.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #16
post #6

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No, the real question is can it drive in heavy rain. I've seen humans do it.

When humans do it, are they just taking a risk that the autonomous car could take, but won't?

That seems like it might be an overgenerous treatment of autonomous vehicles' (current) risk evaluation. The article reads like humans are making the determination that the vehicle can't drive in the rain, not the machines.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #22

All self-driving technology I am aware of is based on visual input (cameras, lasers, etc.). I'm not sure self-driving cars can get as good as human drivers without any audio input. Noises are an extremely important source of information, especially in critical situations. I guess that a startup focusing on converting audio input into 3D-data (e.g. "truck approaching from behind") could become very valuable.

What are examples of situations in which audio input provides relevant information that 360 degree video input doesn't? Humans rely on hearing because our visual arc is only about ~120 degrees.

Emergency vehicles with sirens.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly what i was thinking. The article seemed to me as needless bashing, thr priduct isnt on the market, its still in developement. How scared of google is the author?

Or maybe the author heard Google hype like 'no steering wheel' and 'no accidents in 700k miles', did the reporter thing of doing research and found out that it's as close to a streetcar as a fully driverless car, and wrote a story on it.

Id expect a longer article if research was involved to be honest.

Re: Google's Self-Driving Car Can't Navigate Heavy Rain or Most Roads

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are examples of situations in which audio input provides relevant information that 360 degree video input doesn't? Humans rely on hearing because our visual arc is only about ~120 degrees.

Emergency vehicles with sirens.

This is a good point, though ultimately emergency vehicles would also be automated and would signal to the other automated cars electronically.
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