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Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by fletchowns »

67726e wrote: post #11
crazypyro wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reclining feature doesn't go "into" your lap. No need for a ridiculous hyperbole. Either way, the person paid for that seat and if the airlines choose to put in a reclining feature, your anger should be directed at them and not attempting to harass the person merely trying to use the seat they paid for.

Actually, I'm pretty tall. It is at the least awkward, if not very uncomfortable for someone to recline. It depends on the plane, but those interstate mosquitoes you get on flights between small cities are the absolute worst. I know it's en vogue to treat everything as an economic exercise to show off that business course you took for your undergrad, but some things are really a matter of being a decent person. I've…

Because you have no right to do so, you're just being a jerk. If it's such a problem for you, buy 2 seats on every flight so you can ensure the seat in front of you is empty.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by dbloom »

I don't understand why airlines don't just disable recline in one half of the economy-class cabin, and then let passengers choose whether they want to sit in the reclining or non-reclining side.

I'm 5'10" (almost exactly average for men) but I still like having extra space for using my laptop or iPad. I also don't really benefit from recline because I never sleep on flights. So I would really like having the option to fly without it.

This could also save airlines money on fuel and maintenance. Non-reclining seats would likely weigh less, cost less, and would be easier to maintain.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by 67726e »

crazypyro wrote: post #20
67726e wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I'm pretty tall. It is at the least awkward, if not very uncomfortable for someone to recline. It depends on the plane, but those interstate mosquitoes you get on flights between small cities are the absolute worst. I know it's en vogue to treat everything as an economic exercise to show off that business course you took for your undergrad, but some things are really a matter of being a decent person. I've…

Okay, in the same vein, maybe that person isn't a decent person. You still don't have the right to force them to not recline and calling them "indignant" shows the same kind of attitude, albeit a lesser scale, that caused the Newerk-Denver incident.

If I politely ask you to not cause me discomfort and you do not comply, that is a problem. If you think you get to cause other people suffering for a dollar, you are a fucked person.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by crazypyro »

67726e wrote: post #19
crazypyro wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, if that's how you feel, there are plenty of options. Choose a different airline, take your chances that someone reclines in their seat, sit in the front row, check in earlier or pay more money. Those are all valid options. The idea that you somehow control the right of the person in front of you to recline (a right which they actually paid money to use) is rather selfish and not a valid option.

The idea that someone gets to invade my personal space is rather selfish and not a valid option. If I don't want you imposing on me, then I will make sure that damn well doesn't happen.

Sorry, it's not your personal space. The airline you purchased a ticket on sold that space to the passenger in front of you. Don't like it? There are plenty of other options in which you can expend your energy/time/money to get a seat that suits your comfort. You don't have the right to take away what the person in front of you bought from the airline. It is stealing, plain and simple. They may choose to donate it to you if you persist, but it's their prerogative.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by randallsquared »

67726e wrote: post #5
nazca wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about basic human rights. This is about 'rights' you get for the service you paid for.

It is bad phrasing. It's not a right, it's a luxury.

The word "right" is an economic term, here, not a political one.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by danielweber »

cmiles74 wrote: post #23

This all seems beside the point, the airlines have simply placed the seats far too close together. Perhaps the whining , bad press and diverted flights will encourage them to spread them a little further apart.

Except customers keep on choosing price over legroom.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by 67726e »

crazypyro wrote: post #25
67726e wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that someone gets to invade my personal space is rather selfish and not a valid option. If I don't want you imposing on me, then I will make sure that damn well doesn't happen.

Sorry, it's not your personal space. The airline you purchased a ticket on sold that space to the passenger in front of you. Don't like it? There are plenty of other options in which you can expend your energy/time/money to get a seat that suits your comfort. You don't have the right to take away what the person in front of you bought from the airline. It is stealing, plain and simple. They may choose to donate it to…

If you are in my fucking lap, it is my personal space. They don't have a fucking right to sit in my space and cause me suffering for a price tag. It is not stealing you fucking dense jackass.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by crazypyro »

67726e wrote: post #24
crazypyro wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, in the same vein, maybe that person isn't a decent person. You still don't have the right to force them to not recline and calling them "indignant" shows the same kind of attitude, albeit a lesser scale, that caused the Newerk-Denver incident.

If I politely ask you to not cause me discomfort and you do not comply, that is a problem. If you think you get to cause other people suffering for a dollar, you are a fucked person.

Your anger is completely misguided. You should be either mad at the airline for selling you something that didn't suit your needs or mad at yourself for purchasing a product that didn't suit your needs. It's like purchasing the wrong size suit and going to the store and bitching at them to give you some more fabric so you can be comfortable in your too small suit. It's utterly inane.

Re: Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me

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Post by genericuser »

67726e wrote: post #11
crazypyro wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reclining feature doesn't go "into" your lap. No need for a ridiculous hyperbole. Either way, the person paid for that seat and if the airlines choose to put in a reclining feature, your anger should be directed at them and not attempting to harass the person merely trying to use the seat they paid for.

Actually, I'm pretty tall. It is at the least awkward, if not very uncomfortable for someone to recline. It depends on the plane, but those interstate mosquitoes you get on flights between small cities are the absolute worst. I know it's en vogue to treat everything as an economic exercise to show off that business course you took for your undergrad, but some things are really a matter of being a decent person. I've…

So sometimes you get a person who won't let you prioritize your comfort over theirs, and in those cases you push them up forcing them to accommodate you. You don't outline anytime where it is not a problem for you, or any time you let the other person recline.

Now maybe you just omitted these cases, but the way you are explaining it you sound like the unreasonable person who always has to have their way.

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