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Re: Triple-E Ship Leaves Port With World Record Load

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Post by robzyb »

will_hughes wrote: post #19
kctess5 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a really good video! Any idea what the final budget was? Would be interesting to know how much companies dish out for that sort of thing

I've heard that for things like this you start at $1m per finished minute, and then go from there. This is about 12 minutes long, has a fairly well known British Actor narrating, a well known film director, involved lots of world travel and various types of specialist equipment operators, lighting and sound folks. I wouldn't think you'd get away from this for anything under $20m, and wouldn't be shocked to hear it wa…

Tbh to my ears that sounds like a bit of an overestimate.

Serenity, a 119 minute feature film, had a production budget of $39M.

Of course, there are probably higher costs for a "documentary" like this Maersk one, primarily because of fixed-costs and international travel, but I couldn't imagine that it would be more expensive per-minute by a factor of 7.

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Post by will_hughes »

robzyb wrote: post #21
will_hughes wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard that for things like this you start at $1m per finished minute, and then go from there. This is about 12 minutes long, has a fairly well known British Actor narrating, a well known film director, involved lots of world travel and various types of specialist equipment operators, lighting and sound folks. I wouldn't think you'd get away from this for anything under $20m, and wouldn't be shocked to hear it wa…

Tbh to my ears that sounds like a bit of an overestimate. Serenity, a 119 minute feature film, had a production budget of $39M. Of course, there are probably higher costs for a "documentary" like this Maersk one, primarily because of fixed-costs and international travel, but I couldn't imagine that it would be more expensive per-minute by a factor of 7.

Yeah, possibly. I have no expert knowledge of this particular shoot.

Serenity's not a great example though, normally a movie like that would've been closer to $100M at the time. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(film)#Filming

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Post by wclax04 »

3JPLW wrote: post #3
_delirium wrote: post #2

The containers are stacked higher and nearer the edge than I would've expected for an oceangoing ship. Do ships like this lose containers in rough seas?

Yes, they do. A few weeks ago this hit hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8062864 . 62 containers were lost due to a "once in a 100 year wave." One of which contained Legos. I'm not sure what the expected value is for number of TEUs lost per journey. I'd hope that it's near zero, but I don't know. Edit: quick google. Estimates range from 1,000 (World Shipping Council)[0] to 10,000 (Singularity Hub)[1]…

And as a recreational ocean racing sailer, nothing is more terrifying than seeing one of these bobbing just below the surface.

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Post by D_Alex »

21 years ago I was in a Korean shipyard where the largest container ships of the day were being built. Their capacity was 6000 TEUs, one-third of the Mary Maersk. The captain of one of the ships (a 27 year old (!) German woman) told me most ports cannot handle the 6000 TEU vessels, so their line will be building mainly 4500 TEU ships.

One interesting thing is that those older, smaller ships had more powerful engines than the much larger current vessels! The engine installed on the 6000 TEU vessel was ~90,000 hp, and the ship was designed for sailing at ~25 knots, the justification being that the value of cargo onboard was so high that the cost of shipping was dominated by the interest charges!

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

mixmax wrote: post #11

Seeing the video in the article I was reminded of a corporate video they did a few years ago. I know the director second-hand, and he was basically given free reign to go wherever he wanted and spend as much money as he deemed necessary to make a video that got the size and trust of the brand across. This is the result: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjD9VvhXJrE I think he succeeded - it's one of the best brand vide…

"Pick a point on the globe--any point--and Maersk won't be far away."

This immediately makes me want to calculate the Maersk pole of inaccessibility just to prove them wrong. Maybe xkcd can get on it. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility)

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Post by ghshephard »

D_Alex wrote: post #24

21 years ago I was in a Korean shipyard where the largest container ships of the day were being built. Their capacity was 6000 TEUs, one-third of the Mary Maersk. The captain of one of the ships (a 27 year old (!) German woman) told me most ports cannot handle the 6000 TEU vessels, so their line will be building mainly 4500 TEU ships. One interesting thing is that those older, smaller ships had more powerful engines…

Interesting to note - the change in interest rates therefore has an impact on the size of ship engines, with lower interest rates resulting in smaller engines (or perhaps engines being run at more efficient speeds in terms of fuel consumption)

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Post by evanb »

wclax04 wrote: post #23
3JPLW wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they do. A few weeks ago this hit hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8062864 . 62 containers were lost due to a "once in a 100 year wave." One of which contained Legos. I'm not sure what the expected value is for number of TEUs lost per journey. I'd hope that it's near zero, but I don't know. Edit: quick google. Estimates range from 1,000 (World Shipping Council)[0] to 10,000 (Singularity Hub)[1]…

And as a recreational ocean racing sailer, nothing is more terrifying than seeing one of these bobbing just below the surface.

Have you seen All Is Lost with Robert Redford? It came out in the last 12 months, and the premise is that he's sailing in the Indian Ocean when his boat strikes a lost container. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

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Post by nl »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #26
mixmax wrote: post #11

Seeing the video in the article I was reminded of a corporate video they did a few years ago. I know the director second-hand, and he was basically given free reign to go wherever he wanted and spend as much money as he deemed necessary to make a video that got the size and trust of the brand across. This is the result: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjD9VvhXJrE I think he succeeded - it's one of the best brand vide…

"Pick a point on the globe--any point--and Maersk won't be far away." This immediately makes me want to calculate the Maersk pole of inaccessibility just to prove them wrong. Maybe xkcd can get on it. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility )

Maersk does some land shipping too.

But I don't think Maersk (or anyone) does much work shipping across land on Antarctica. They do supply some of the research stations[1], but these tend to be on the coast.

Given that, I'd imagine somewhere in the middle on Antarctica would be about the furthest.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Peary

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