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The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

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Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#21

This guy has a huge ego (check out his blog). But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was. EDIT: Not his blog, his site.

But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was.

He would have been, practically and legally speaking, able to walk away from that deal totally without consequence. Remind me who was taking the risk again?

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#22
post #3

1- license tech now, pay later 2- ? 3- profit!

Honestly: 30 days? $100K revenue from a new tech venture when you're 16 working in the afternoons and can't code ? Reaaallly? I realize these were crazy times but .. I smell a fish.

Especially since they were crazy times, but not because of crazy revenue. Those were the days of big cash outs, not big revenues.

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#23
post #21

This guy has a huge ego (check out his blog). But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was. EDIT: Not his blog, his site.

But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was. He would have been, practically and legally speaking, able to walk away from that deal totally without consequence. Remind me who was taking the risk again?

I was under the impression that he would have to pay in 90 days.

Otherwise, it's one hell of a deal.

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#24
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was. He would have been, practically and legally speaking, able to walk away from that deal totally without consequence. Remind me who was taking the risk again?

I was under the impression that he would have to pay in 90 days. Otherwise, it's one hell of a deal.

As a minor was the agreement legally binding?

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#25
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It basically summarized his book up in 2 minutes. It leaves out all the details and good information. It's articles like these that do entrepreneurs a dis-service: a) You don't get the nitty gritty important details on how he really did it. You should definitely read his book to find that out btw. b) The focus is on the zeros and commas, making everyone think they can make million on teh internetz easily.

Are the rest of the details in his book? If so, it's acceptable that a ~650-word newspaper account just provide a taste/tease; it's all the medium can do.

If it's an ad for the book it's acceptable. But it's unclear exactly what it is - it doesn't even mention that there's a book. It sure isn't much of an article.

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#26
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But taking a 30K risk when you're 16 is pretty impressive, especially considering how poor his family was. He would have been, practically and legally speaking, able to walk away from that deal totally without consequence. Remind me who was taking the risk again?

I was under the impression that he would have to pay in 90 days. Otherwise, it's one hell of a deal.

Technically, yes he would've had to pay. But he had no money and neither did his family. If he didn't pay there was no one and nothing to go after, he'd simply declare bankruptcy.

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#27
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression that he would have to pay in 90 days. Otherwise, it's one hell of a deal.

Technically, yes he would've had to pay. But he had no money and neither did his family. If he didn't pay there was no one and nothing to go after, he'd simply declare bankruptcy.

Technically, as a minor he could just say "Whoops, my bad" and the contract would probably be voided, but practically speaking simply refusing to respond to someone on another continent leaves them pretty much screwed, even without taking any step to resolve the situation legally.

"Pay me."

"..."

"Pay me or I'll spend several hundred thousand dollars on a lawyer to recover my $30k!"

"..."

"Pay me please?"

"..."

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#28
post #11

The guy is pretty impressive for a lot of reasons. It's better read in his book/autobiography: http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Learned-Rewards-Entrepreneurship... It's a great insight in his building a business against his parent's wishes (while still a minor), how he managed things, partnerships and legal stuff that went sour, what he did between his first exit and his second company (built a restaurant, invested in sto…

I started to read the article and it sounded like a very short version of the book. I read the book (on a recommendation from HN) and took a lot from it. In particular I found the dynamic between the programmer who made the technology and himself (who did the business development) interesting. He made the programmer what I thought was a fair deal, worked his ass off selling, and things grew fast. The programmer got really pissed and created all kinds of headaches. Reading this gave me a chance to evaluate any future business relationships I might have as a programmer.

Overall the book isn't on my must read list but I still thought it was pretty good. I

Re: The Boss - First, $99. Then, Millions.

#30
I remember him from the show, "Secret Millionaire," where millionaires dress as poor people for a week, then give away money to citizens that helped them out.

While I respected him for doing the show, I remember thinking at the time that he was way too into himself. He'd wear v-neck, designer shirts even though he was supposed to look homeless.

Then he'd cry a lot, and say, "And I normally never cry, but this has gotten me so emotional.." Which means he probably cries all the time to make himself look sensitive.

And he spread out his giveaway, which made the episode boring. Where other millionaires gave $100,000 per person, he'd give multiple people, $10,000.

All around bad episode. Now I'm mad..

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