Live data from Hacker News

Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

data.langly.fr

21–30 of 62 posts

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#21

"I recommend using servers you've hacked or a VPS paid with bitcoin to hack from." Not a good idea considering Bitcoin isn't anonymous and a sufficiently motivated state can back track to an electronic purchase of bitcoin tied to your identity.

My understanding is that a sufficiently motivated state can find any computer criminal. It's just a matter of following them long enough until they slip and make an opsec mistake.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#22
post #18

How was this article found? You go up to the directory and there is a whole host of cruft. Not discounting the likelihood that this is how the attacker was successful -- none of it's bullshit anyways -- but seems odd that someone would just stumble upon this. Can't find out much about that site either other than the Datalove reference that makes it seem like some Telecomix thing. Anyways, interesting submission. Show…

I think the original paste-bin was posted on Reddit by the same account that posted the finfisher leaks. This is just a mirror.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#23
post #18

How was this article found? You go up to the directory and there is a whole host of cruft. Not discounting the likelihood that this is how the attacker was successful -- none of it's bullshit anyways -- but seems odd that someone would just stumble upon this. Can't find out much about that site either other than the Datalove reference that makes it seem like some Telecomix thing. Anyways, interesting submission. Show…

Not OP, Ars Technica linked to it a couple of days ago.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#24
post #22
post #18

How was this article found? You go up to the directory and there is a whole host of cruft. Not discounting the likelihood that this is how the attacker was successful -- none of it's bullshit anyways -- but seems odd that someone would just stumble upon this. Can't find out much about that site either other than the Datalove reference that makes it seem like some Telecomix thing. Anyways, interesting submission. Show…

I think the original paste-bin was posted on Reddit by the same account that posted the finfisher leaks. This is just a mirror.

Ah okay, that makes sense. Thank you.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#25
post #7

Every time I find or see an SQL injection issue I get angry. It's 2014, why are web developers still making the same basic mistakes? SQL injection is a fixed issue. There is no excuse. Same with XSS, although not as serious it's staggeringly common.

Web developers are making these errors because of the high demand for cheap web devs churned out of "learn to code!" bootcamps coupled with the fact that the people writing the checks don't understand security.

Also, while basic SQL injection issues are "fixed" if you are an experienced dev, CVEs about SQI in libraries meant to protect you from SQI are common. No doubt there are lots of zero day SQI exploits for every SQL library out there.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#26
post #18

How was this article found? You go up to the directory and there is a whole host of cruft. Not discounting the likelihood that this is how the attacker was successful -- none of it's bullshit anyways -- but seems odd that someone would just stumble upon this. Can't find out much about that site either other than the Datalove reference that makes it seem like some Telecomix thing. Anyways, interesting submission. Show…

It was posted within the last 24 hours on Reddit (/r/blackhat). Here's the thread...

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackhat/comments/2d9qba/hackback_a_...

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#28
post #18

How was this article found? You go up to the directory and there is a whole host of cruft. Not discounting the likelihood that this is how the attacker was successful -- none of it's bullshit anyways -- but seems odd that someone would just stumble upon this. Can't find out much about that site either other than the Datalove reference that makes it seem like some Telecomix thing. Anyways, interesting submission. Show…

I was looking into the peers seeding the torrent. There I found a host langley.fr seeding. That is how I got to the article.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#29
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you know for sure that it didn't dump the database to somewhere in Asia once "they" have your server under control? Serious question, because how can you trust the logs? (Mind you, I'm not that technical)

Once the servers been comped, you can't tell what's been accessed on that machine. You could possibly find out if it accesses other machines within your network (logging depending) - however if someone were to root a public facing server that had a bunch of files on it, you have to assume they've been seen/duplicated.

That was exactly my thought so there is no "lucky" after all. At least not for sure.

Re: Hack Back – A DIY guide to those without the patience to wait for whistleblowers

#30
post #7

Every time I find or see an SQL injection issue I get angry. It's 2014, why are web developers still making the same basic mistakes? SQL injection is a fixed issue. There is no excuse. Same with XSS, although not as serious it's staggeringly common.

Web developers are making these errors because of the high demand for cheap web devs churned out of "learn to code!" bootcamps coupled with the fact that the people writing the checks don't understand security. Also, while basic SQL injection issues are "fixed" if you are an experienced dev, CVEs about SQI in libraries meant to protect you from SQI are common. No doubt there are lots of zero day SQI exploits for ever…

>Web developers are making these errors because of the high demand for cheap web devs churned out of "learn to code!" bootcamps coupled with the fact that the people writing the checks don't understand security.

Cheap developers with no senior oversight and code review? No [automated] security testing to catch the basics?

You're getting what you deserve if this is the only level of talent and organization you want to put on task.

Post reply on HN