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Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

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Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

#21
post #11

No mention of MySQL anywhere in that declaration, which is interesting given the EU's regulatory body concerns.

It seems pretty conspicuously absent, in fact.

MySQL's best hope is that Sun throws it overboard before the acquisition completes; there's no way it will survive within Oracle -- it competes directly as a zero-cost alternative to Oracle's core products.

Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

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post #21
post #11

No mention of MySQL anywhere in that declaration, which is interesting given the EU's regulatory body concerns.

It seems pretty conspicuously absent, in fact. MySQL's best hope is that Sun throws it overboard before the acquisition completes; there's no way it will survive within Oracle -- it competes directly as a zero-cost alternative to Oracle's core products.

Well, no, not at all. If you are an "enterprise" then you are paying $$$ for the "enterprise" version of MySQL. If you aren't, then you'd never buy Oracle anyway, you don't need it. At the end of the day MySQL is pretty irrelevant to Oracle's plans for Sun.

Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

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post #14
post #2

" ...tightly integrating Oracle software with Sun hardware." Does this mean support for Oracle software on Linux will slowly degrade? Oracle would likely prefer to sell you the entire suite of hardware, OS and software vs. just selling software.

When I was interviewing with the DB2 team for IBM, they mentioned that the high-end IBM database servers implement special instructions (CPU-level) for accelerating certain DB operations. I don't know any more details than that, but I'd guess that's where Oracle is going to go with SPARC.

That might be as simple as having super-low level operations that they hand write in assembly for each supported CPU, and all other layers staying the same.

Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

#26
post #9

... dramatically improve hardware performance by tightly integrating Oracle software with Sun hardware Eh? The hardware and its performance stands alone. Adding software cannot improve the hardware. Only the software performance may be increased by better hardware utilization.

It is obvious what this means. Oracle up to 10g accessed NFS filesystems via the OS. They were mounted just as normal filesystems would be. Oracle 11g connects directly to the NFS server, completely bypassing the OS filesystem layer.

Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

#28
post #5

I really want to know what Orcale's real plan is. Before the acquisition they have to have figured out some way to reconcile Oracle Linux and Solaris, I just wish I knew what it was. No matter how you slice it, they are competing products in a very similar space. I suppose they could continue to develop both separately and take advantage of having two brands.

Oracle isn't really developing Oracle Linux since that's just RHEL. All they do is provide support.

They're developing part of the kernel, which will be included in future RHEL releases. They also have people working on Spacewalk and Xen too IIRC.

Re: Oracle's Declaration to Sun Customers ... and IBM

#29
post #21
post #11

No mention of MySQL anywhere in that declaration, which is interesting given the EU's regulatory body concerns.

It seems pretty conspicuously absent, in fact. MySQL's best hope is that Sun throws it overboard before the acquisition completes; there's no way it will survive within Oracle -- it competes directly as a zero-cost alternative to Oracle's core products.

Oracle would be crazy to give up MySQL. Controlling it, they can ensure it'll never compete with their high-end products, while taking the air out of the entry db market.
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