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Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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The SUSE engineers and community really make some fantastic tools. I was a long-time openSUSE user but I found the package repositories were not so well maintained and eventually I switched away, but tools like Zypper (the only mainstream Linux package manager that gives you fine-grained control on what to do if a package dependency cannot be fulfilled - a pet peeve of mine on Debian systems), SUSEStudio (web service…

Out of interest, what did you switch to? Debian?

Fedora

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

#22

The SUSE engineers and community really make some fantastic tools. I was a long-time openSUSE user but I found the package repositories were not so well maintained and eventually I switched away, but tools like Zypper (the only mainstream Linux package manager that gives you fine-grained control on what to do if a package dependency cannot be fulfilled - a pet peeve of mine on Debian systems), SUSEStudio (web service…

I find zypper is SUSE's killer app that gets very little love from people unfamiliar with it's use. Yum is a close second but I never understand the love afair people have for apt-get it makes me want to scream all the time. The very terminology of update doesn't update your software or machine but that upgrade does update but does not upgrade you to the newest release is enough crazy. Also apt-get search != search is also crazy.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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OK, it was a selective quote and there was no refusal. Ubuntu developers just want to fix first all the bugs that matter for Ubuntu users (which is as distant now as 5 years ago, in practice it's the same as refusal). So there is a contrast. Ubuntu devs haven't made what would be a nice gesture toward their upstream distro. OTOH SUSE provides resources for building packages for several unrelated distros.

> Ubuntu devs haven't made what would be a nice gesture toward their upstream distro. They make nice gestures toward their upstream distro all the time, just not this one, for which they have said that code contributions are welcome. 3913 nice gestures (in the form of patches) are logged at http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_usertag.cgi , for example. > OTOH SUSE provides resources for building packages for several…

Especially since replicating Open Build Service would be a waste of effort. It already exists. There doesn't need to be a Canonical version of it. If someone wants to build a package for multiple distros, use Open Build Service. Launchpad serves a different purpose.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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Out of interest, what did you switch to? Debian?

Fedora

That surprises me. I've used Fedora for a while (it was preinstalled on a laptop that was gifted to me), and found that the repositories were both much smaller and much less well-maintained than the equivalents on openSUSE.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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Fedora

That surprises me. I've used Fedora for a while (it was preinstalled on a laptop that was gifted to me), and found that the repositories were both much smaller and much less well-maintained than the equivalents on openSUSE.

I have found a few handy tools that openSUSE had packaged long before Fedora. I think the credit for that goes to openSUSE's much more accessible build service :) Haven't had any issues with the repositories, myself, though - been using Fedora on and off since F11.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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That surprises me. I've used Fedora for a while (it was preinstalled on a laptop that was gifted to me), and found that the repositories were both much smaller and much less well-maintained than the equivalents on openSUSE.

I have found a few handy tools that openSUSE had packaged long before Fedora. I think the credit for that goes to openSUSE's much more accessible build service :) Haven't had any issues with the repositories, myself, though - been using Fedora on and off since F11.

It mostly does. There are a few things that are in openSUSEs main repositories and not in those of Fedora, but in many cases the openSUSE packages were indeed in user repositories.

Fedora repositories were so bad for me that I ended up searching for Fedora packages on the openSUSE Build Service, and using those instead.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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Open Build Service has always been one of the more attractive features of OpenSuSe, along with Suse Studio.

Unfortunately, after spending some time with the newest release of OpenSuSe, I found it had become very bloated and I feel I will never return to the distribution.

The straw on the camel's back was finding out about the 'tmpfiles.d' or similar. Seems very messy and got me thinking about the direction some of the Linux distributions are going.

Re: Open Build Service by openSUSE

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post #27

Open Build Service has always been one of the more attractive features of OpenSuSe, along with Suse Studio. Unfortunately, after spending some time with the newest release of OpenSuSe, I found it had become very bloated and I feel I will never return to the distribution. The straw on the camel's back was finding out about the 'tmpfiles.d' or similar. Seems very messy and got me thinking about the direction some of th…

Of course, this is only an opinion, and in general the Suse engineers have always done some great work.
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