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Re: List of Web Business Models

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I'm very happy to see this at the top this morning. HN has tended to prioritise product development at the expense of business development, when the reality is you need both. Many of us seem to come from that product dev background and like to stick to the "if you build it they will come" mentality, which isn't so hot in practice. A lot of modern business models (especially those like ARM's licensing or Google's subl…

Well, it depends on your ambition. As Jason Cohen put it, "Do you want to be rich, or do you want to be king?" They require (or at least benefit from) different approaches. If you want to be rich, maximize growth. This means accepting funding whenever it can increase your growth rate. If you want to be king, avoid investment if you possibly can, and focus on profitability.

"Rich" isn't just about making money, or maximizing money. You can get rich as king, too. Rich is about creating the largest, most powerful, most influential business you can, taking the idea to its max. But if you go this route, with lots of investment, you must pay off for your investors. You must have an exit strategy.

"King" is about control. It's about building the company you've always wanted to work at, and just working there forever. That's what 37signals did. They created an ideal company with a unique culture, and incidentally got rich in the process, but it's not nearly as big as it could be if they pushed. But that's okay... they love their product.

Re: List of Web Business Models

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I came here thinking I would see detailed Busines models. I might be biased as I'm working with the Business Model Canvas right now. If you're looking for a way to build your own here's a link: http://www.businessmodelgeneration.com/canvas Edit: UX optimized BMC: http://grasshopperherder.com/business-model-canvas-for-user-...

Do you know some online open source version of BMC like https://strategyzer.com/ . Wish to have one, but can't find. Might build it myself if there is none.

Thanks for the link! There is this from Udemy (a Founder Instute startup I think) https://www.udemy.com/entrepreneurship-from-idea-to-launch/

Re: List of Web Business Models

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post #18

I came here thinking I would see detailed Busines models. I might be biased as I'm working with the Business Model Canvas right now. If you're looking for a way to build your own here's a link: http://www.businessmodelgeneration.com/canvas Edit: UX optimized BMC: http://grasshopperherder.com/business-model-canvas-for-user-...

Do you know some online open source version of BMC like https://strategyzer.com/ . Wish to have one, but can't find. Might build it myself if there is none.

I created my own editable version of the canvas [0] then used a Google Spreadsheet for recording the testing part.

[0] https://www.draw.io/?url=https://googledrive.com/host/0B8WNm...

Re: List of Web Business Models

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One thing worth mentioning for games is what Valve is doing with Dota 2. The game is truly free to play, and giving them all the money in the world will not give the player any in-game advantage. On the surface, the game sells various hero skins and other cosmetic items that are little more than vanity items. Looking closer, it seems that Valve is making (or at least trying to make) money by developing a scene of pro…

This competition model has been common at racetracks (motorsports) around the country for a hundred years. The promoter takes some of the "gate" to pay prize money. Sometimes the pros even get money just to show up, so that there are big names at the event.

The model is viable, but a little risky sometimes if you don't know how many spectators will pay. Usually the prize money is set before the cash flow is known.

Re: List of Web Business Models

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I'm very happy to see this at the top this morning. HN has tended to prioritise product development at the expense of business development, when the reality is you need both. Many of us seem to come from that product dev background and like to stick to the "if you build it they will come" mentality, which isn't so hot in practice. A lot of modern business models (especially those like ARM's licensing or Google's subl…

Agreed. Would be good to see some more biz dev stuff but i guess there's lots of other sites that specialise in that. Good to see all these tech business models though!

Re: List of Web Business Models

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post #18

I came here thinking I would see detailed Busines models. I might be biased as I'm working with the Business Model Canvas right now. If you're looking for a way to build your own here's a link: http://www.businessmodelgeneration.com/canvas Edit: UX optimized BMC: http://grasshopperherder.com/business-model-canvas-for-user-...

Do you know some online open source version of BMC like https://strategyzer.com/ . Wish to have one, but can't find. Might build it myself if there is none.

Thanks guys, appreciate !

Re: List of Web Business Models

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I was hoping for more fleshed-out examples of why the business models were good, but the list was interesting nonetheless.

My two personal-favorite business models are (in no particular order): Tesla and Miley Cyrus.

Tesla: evident if you're familiar with it (http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-p...)

My interest in the Miley Cyrus model might need a little more explanation. Back a few months ago, when she was releasing over-the-top videos (wrecking ball?), everyone was saying some variant of "wow why is Miley famous she obviously has no talent and this is just lewd." But this is the crux of her brilliance.[0] She has tricked a very large number of people into advertising for her, regardless of whether she does anything requiring talent. But then there's the obvious tradeoff: she has to deliver all of these ridiculous things, likely to the detriment of her ability to contribute anything actually meaningful to the industry. Maybe other people have made that deal but none seem to have been as successful, at least based on the data from my facebook feed. And this is a rare case in which facebook feed data is a useful measure of the success of the business, because it fuels the clicks and the conversations and the weird interest.

Anyway. Every time I see something about her, even overwhelmingly negative, I shake my head and think "another person tricked into feeding her success". Her willingness to decouple her success from anything "worthwhile"[1] about her (talent/skill/beauty/benefit to fans), at the cost of irrecoverably changing her career in what most would view as a very negative way, is sort of fascinating.

[0] I say "her brilliance" but in reality I am sure she is just the face for a manager type orchestrating the money-and-fame-for-girl's-reputation-and-soul deal.

[1] "Worthwhile" in quotes because is anything in the pop music industry really worthwhile?

Re: List of Web Business Models

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post #27

I was hoping for more fleshed-out examples of why the business models were good, but the list was interesting nonetheless. My two personal-favorite business models are (in no particular order): Tesla and Miley Cyrus. Tesla: evident if you're familiar with it ( http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-p... ) My interest in the Miley Cyrus model might need a little more explanation. Back a few months…

I'm assuming the Rap Genius guys are following the Miley Cyrus model then.

Re: List of Web Business Models

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This isn't meant to be a comprehensive list, but it does have some holes I'd point to primarily in (1) Consulting / services, (2) Enterprise, (3) Hardware / manufacturing. On the first you have time and materials, fixed fee, etc. On the second you have on-premise solutions, enterprise licenses, etc (Think Oracle, tons of security companies), and the third is, well, I'm not sure anyone needs examples: you make physical stuff that does something and you sell it.
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