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Count to ten when a plane goes down

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Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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Reset all computers in the embassy with F7? No warning prompt? Fire the idiot who wrote that function.

It is possible there was a warning for both functions and the operator just acknowledged the warning assuming it was for the single reset without reading it. This is a common problem with warning too often in interfaces.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#23
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was probably fired because they realized they couldn't put a summer intern in control of such a critical system. I would make the same call.

If you go with this line of reasoning, whoever put him in that position should also be fired, and their boss should be fired for putting someone in charge who made such a poor decision in the first place.

They might have been, we just don't know.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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The author states they felt it was appropriate when they were fired. In what world would it be appropriate to get fired for a single, simple, incredibly easy to make mistake? Doubly insane when there were exactly zero safeguards in place to prevent the mistake from being made.

The world where you know you that a) you have an incredibly powerful key with no safeguards at your fingertips and b) you might be in a breaking news situation and nonetheless you go for the key right next to the dangerous one carelessly enough that you miss? Think about it: Unix is equally as "insane". If you're the guy on the console who meant to clean out some crap dir and accidentally typoed "rm -rf /" and then c…

Except he didn't know there was a breaking news situation. He said pushing the wrong button wouldn't normally be a big deal.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was probably fired because they realized they couldn't put a summer intern in control of such a critical system. I would make the same call.

If you go with this line of reasoning, whoever put him in that position should also be fired, and their boss should be fired for putting someone in charge who made such a poor decision in the first place.

Only part of that makes sense. The person putting an intern in such a position of control should be reprimanded, but it wouldn't make much sense for the next level higher because there isn't a blatant mistake. Hiring someone that turns out to make a mistake isn't as blatant as giving an intern the power to shut down a mission critical system.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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post #2

Reset all computers in the embassy with F7? No warning prompt? Fire the idiot who wrote that function.

Stole the words right out of my keyboard. Who puts the 'reset every workstation in the building' button right next to the 'reset just one workstation' button with no confirmation prompt?

He might have been that times IT Administrator? We've come a long way over these past 30 years, but think about it for a second, if you're an IT Administrator today handling all the office machines, you probably have the power to click 1 button to turn them all off? (Depending on the setup of course..) There's obviously more access rights involved today.

Doesn't answer "who" put the button in there, I'm just thinking out-loud! :)

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world where you know you that a) you have an incredibly powerful key with no safeguards at your fingertips and b) you might be in a breaking news situation and nonetheless you go for the key right next to the dangerous one carelessly enough that you miss? Think about it: Unix is equally as "insane". If you're the guy on the console who meant to clean out some crap dir and accidentally typoed "rm -rf /" and then c…

Except he didn't know there was a breaking news situation. He said pushing the wrong button wouldn't normally be a big deal.

He said he came in to find the system running, and the only time that happened was when Washington was waiting for info.

And even if you don't buy that, if pushing the button's not a big deal it doesn't need all the safeguards everyone's yelling for. (Had such safeguards been in place he might equally well have seen them, thought "oh, nobody's in, this will do what I want anyway" and approved it).

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

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post #2

Reset all computers in the embassy with F7? No warning prompt? Fire the idiot who wrote that function.

Stole the words right out of my keyboard. Who puts the 'reset every workstation in the building' button right next to the 'reset just one workstation' button with no confirmation prompt?

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