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IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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Writing software, in and of itself, does no more to advance science than building houses does to advance structural engineering. If they are specifically writing software to be used for scientific research, or are carrying out significant research into computing and releasing papers/patents freely, then they might qualify.

So let's look at some of the existing ones like Wikimedia or Apache. What are they doing to claim that particular exemption?

Here's Wikimedia's confirmation of exemption letter.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/9/90/501%2...

To go further, I'd look up exactly what "Public Charity Status 170(b)(1)(A)(vi)" is, and then compare that to how they describe themselves here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/FAQ/en

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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TL/DR just because you release OSS does not mean you get to be a charity:) From the previous discussion this link is probably the best advice someone can get: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7969202 > Generally speaking, they may not like that a for-profit business can use your organization's by-product to make lots of money for themselves. > Nevertheless, just releasing OSS is NOT an exempt purpose. If you read…

This is exactly on-point, and bears repeating: simply not seeking to make a profit does not make an organization eligible for 501(c)(3) status. The organization must have an exempt purpose, one that is "charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals." Charitable, in turn,…

They tried to make the actual points. But they got shot down pretty hard. The real issue seems to be that providing the work without illustrating and tracking who uses the software (so that you're being charitable and helping the less fortunate) means you aren't being charitable...

http://blogs.gnome.org/jnelson/2014/06/30/the-new-501c3-and-...

Personally, they're one of the places I interviewed at right out of college (I got wrecked pretty hard as they were my first ever whiteboard test haha). They're driven and they firmly believe in trying to help people with free software. It's a real shame they got denied.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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post #3

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so use adblock or noscript?

I think the page blocking happens on mobile, where these options are not so great on mobile.

Install AdFree (need to be root) http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/adfree-a...

You won't find it on the play store though.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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suddenly seems like it was a bad idea to bill my nonprofit (details in profile) as an effort to make open-source pharmaceuticals.... My application has been in the queue for more than a year.

Probably not too bad of an idea. What you're talking about is advancing science for sure. Yeah you might hit the "open source" trigger but it's molecules not code. Even if you get turned down you should be able to appeal quite readily and make sure that you explain that this is Science(tm) and "open source" is merely a handy analogy by which people understand that you're making the results available very publicly, for all to use.

If that's not science, I don't know what is.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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suddenly seems like it was a bad idea to bill my nonprofit (details in profile) as an effort to make open-source pharmaceuticals.... My application has been in the queue for more than a year.

How much do you expect the tax advantages to matter?

(I'm wondering if the compliance headaches will be a bad trade off for small enterprises vs any savings at IRS time)

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly on-point, and bears repeating: simply not seeking to make a profit does not make an organization eligible for 501(c)(3) status. The organization must have an exempt purpose, one that is "charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals." Charitable, in turn,…

> maintaining public buildings, monuments, or works I'd say Yorba falls under that if you take "works" to include digital artifacts.

The IRS contends otherwise; from http://yorba.org/docs/IRS-determination-letter-final.pdf, page 8:

> Software is not a public work. The development and distribution of software is not a public work even if published under open source or creative commons compatible licenses because software is not a facility ordinarily charitable to include "erecting or maintaining public buildings, monuments, or works." This language slightly broadens the original formulation from four centuries ago.

It goes on to quote the Charitable Uses Act of 1601.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

#28

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Sure, if "maintaining a work" counted, the standard would be pretty easy to meet! But it's not just "works" but "public works." As in, "a broad category of infrastructure projects, financed and constructed by the government, for recreational, employment, and health and safety uses in the greater community." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_works (Yes, it's Wikipedia, but this definition is about right.)

Isn't free open source a public work? It seems to meet the criteria as almost everyone has a computer...

It seems like "financed and constructed by the government" is a pretty important clause in that definition.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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TL/DR just because you release OSS does not mean you get to be a charity:) From the previous discussion this link is probably the best advice someone can get: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7969202 > Generally speaking, they may not like that a for-profit business can use your organization's by-product to make lots of money for themselves. > Nevertheless, just releasing OSS is NOT an exempt purpose. If you read…

This is exactly on-point, and bears repeating: simply not seeking to make a profit does not make an organization eligible for 501(c)(3) status. The organization must have an exempt purpose, one that is "charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals." Charitable, in turn,…

I'd say that open source qualifies as a public work.

Re: IRS policy denies tax-exempt status to open source non-profits

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We have no plans to appeal their decision. It looks to be an arduous legal battle we cannot afford.

This is rather sad, and since you were given a 30-day window to contest the decision that was issued on May 22 and it's now July, I have to assume that you decided not to bother and let the window close rather than asking for an extension or suchlike. But I'll address the substantial question anyway.

Maybe you (ie Yorba) shouldn't look at it in confrontational terms. My understanding is that the IRS has standards which it is required to meet by law before granting 501(c)(3) status, not least because of questionable compliance by other organizations in the past, eg the kerfuffle over Acorn, an organization whose lax internal standards led to an unusual Congressional defunding. (Of course that was a heavily politicized case, but that's life inside the sausage factory).

If you look at it from the IRS's point of view, much of the letter explains what sort of materials they need to satisfy the showing of a charitable purpose, eg on page 2 they point out that you have no real idea if the Tools are actually used by the poor and underprivileged. Obviously you don't want to make everyone jump through hoops to download them, or track everyone who does, but you could solicit testimonials from under-privileged people who derive benefit from them, in order to make a showing of having provided aid to the underprivileged. Merely stating this as your goal doesn't qualify, since such statements of good intention are easily employed by people who wish to maintain a charitable front for activities that would otherwise be taxable. In the absence of any showing to the contrary the IRS has to weigh the possibility of an illegitimate purpose. If not, they're arguably just rubber-stamping the application.

We might think the charitable nature of an open-source project is self-evident, but the whole point of regulatory oversight is that you can't always take people's word at face value, because a substantial proportion of people are in fact dishonest and inclined to abuse loopholes in things like tax liability. So you need to provide them with some objective evidence of your charitable endeavor by showing examples of who is helped and how. Doing so would probably obviate the requirement to screen out commercial or political uses.

Likewise, the letter points out that the although you offer educational materials in the form of documentation (presumably of both the code and applications), you didn't include any of this with your submission, so again you can't really blame them for not giving weight to it. Yes, they could go off and look it up, but the fact is that in our adversarial legal system its up to the petitioner (for tax exempt-status) to proactively supply evidence for their claim and make an argument for how it supports their charitable activity, not that of the administrator to go and look for it. Some of the documentation of your site is quite good (eg the Shotwell architectural documentation for programmers), some is pretty perfunctory (eg the Shotweel user documentation, or the almost-non-existent documentation for the deprectated Fillmore project). By 'perfunctory' I mean that the Shotwell documentation (for example) says 'function x is here, configurator Y is there, common task Z can be achieved like so.' This is OK for hackers - let's face it, many of use care as little to read documentation as programmers care to write it - but it's not instructional in the sense of helping someone who was unfamiliar with computers to develop a skill they would otherwise lack.

I could go on, but I don't want to go through the letter right now with a fine-tooth comb. The thing is, when I read it I see them telling you what they need to see and how it should be presented, as well as where the errors in your original submission were. Even if you don't appeal, this is useful information for other open-source nonprofits to use - not just in meeting IRS compliance requirements, but in ensuring that their offerings provide concrete benefits beyond free-as-in-beer software. I don't think the reference to notions of public works extending back 4 centuries is evidence of an antipathy to software or a requirement that the people of the 17th century have foresight of such things, but addresses the underlying notion of what constitutes charitable assistance: it is more than just putting a box on the sidewalk labeled 'free stuff'.

One thing that jumps out at me from page 9 is the tricky issue of copyright assignment in free software licenses. I've always felt that GNU license tried to have its legal cake and eat it by saying it was open to all but preventing its use in closed-source commercial products (GPL 5c - http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html). It appears the IRS is saying that if you really want to 'give' software/source to the public, you have to actually put it in the public domain rather than promulgating ideological restrictions; if someone then exploits it to make and sell 'Closed Source Nastyware, Ripoff Edition' that's just too bad.

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