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Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

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Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#21

Too bad the body is often pretty lousy at honoring requests for quality sleep even when we make the time.

Yeah, I found that I need to train my body to sleep. If I go for a week or two with little sleep, the body seems to readjust to the pattern and refuses to sleep more.

Did you read the article though? You may not be sleeping due to your training it but you're at a competitive disadvantage to your peers.

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#25
It was explained to me that a small % of people can get by with less than 8 hours sleep. Those people then often move to the top of the org chart either as founders or management in larger companies. Perhaps unsurprisingly, given their lack of need for sleep, they're not big believers in the value of sleep and napping. That's why you'll see these articles every 3 - 6 months and nothing will really change.

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

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post #2

I'm a big fan of naps. I take one around 2PM or so, usually for about 15-20 minutes.

I can never take short naps. I always end up wanting to sleep the rest of the day.

Here's a few tricks I learned a few years ago.

1. I never nap for more than 20 minutes. If my body goes into a deeper level of sleep or relaxation, I get up feeling groggy and disoriented.

2. Properly nap. Force yourself not to think about work. Focus on other things such as the weight of your body sinking into the chair/couch, the distant sound of traffic, etc.

3. Towards the end of the nap, very slowly and deliberately count up to 20, with a maybe 2 or 3 long slow breaths between counts. Completely relax during this count, but on the count of 20 immediately, instantly get up and go about your business. Know that this is what you are going to do, but don't let your body tense up or in any way get ready for it. Works for me like a charm. Just psychologically knowing I'm going to do this somehow prepares me for it at a deep level.

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#27
I've heard that the amount of sleep you need is a genetic thing. But is that true? Does anyone know what the main research articles are for that?

And has anyone ever significantly changed the amount they need by lifestyle changes (like daily exercise)?

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#28

Has anyone tried polyphasic sleep cycles as a way to get less sleep without losing cognitive function?

Yes, I tried it for about 3 months 8 years ago.

You stay surprisingly functional for somebody who's only getting ~2 hours total sleep a day, but you definitely lose cognitive function. I didn't realize it at the time -- like a drunk or anybody functioning in a sleep debt it doesn't feel like you've lost cognitive function, but it's readily apparent to anybody who knows you well. The worst time is the half hour or so before your next scheduled nap.

Perhaps the biggest thing I gained from the experiment was the ability to take a power nap any time, any where.

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#29
I wish I could take naps during the day when I get fatigued, but unfortunately I have severe sleep apnea, so unless I sleep with a CPAP machine, I don't actually get any rest. And my CPAP machine isn's something I can bring to work.

Re: Sleep as a Competitive Advantage

#30

best sleep aid ever: the hostory of the decline and fall of the roman empire by edward gibbon. 2 pages for me and im out like a light.

I prefer "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Gibbon, by Edward Empire" myself...

edit: it's a Monty Python joke people. Perhaps more relevant would be to have a chat with Keith Maniac from Guatemala, who claims he can put bricks to sleep? (ref: http://www.montypython.net/scripts/interest.php)

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