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IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Post by acjohnson55 »

kamilafsar wrote: post #2

I hope they're going to fix the Scala and Play plugins. Unfortunately they say nothing about it. Sometimes the lag between typing and actually seeing it in Idea is a couple of seconds.. Still better than the last time I tried Scala IDE (eclipse) though.

Scala and Play support is already vastly ahead of where it was just 6 months ago, but there's definitely more room for improvement. The overall intelligence of the IDE is still sorely lacking versus what you get for, say, Java. I'd love to see a lot more support for intelligent editing of SBT files, more intuitive ways of finding usages of instances and types, working with implicits, and refactorings that align with Scala's abstractions. It seems like such a powerful language should have an IDE that gives you more ability to access those features.

Also, I find the code style settings to be extremely difficult to tweak, in large part due to poor browsability and also because you can't actually see them applied to the example code next to the settings editor.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Post by userbinator »

gadr90 wrote: post #5

I would love it if they focused on performance improvements and making the editor more lightweight overall. I love WebStorm, but even on my beastly XPS running nothing but it and Chrome, it sometimes hangs doing nothing. I'm starting to investigate other editors such as Atom because of this. I find it hard to believe that a quad core, modern computer can possibly have a hard time running a text editor.

Is it a CPU bottleneck (cores being at 100% would be a good sign of this), or memory running low and causing swapfile use (high HDD activity)? Without any further info I'm leaning toward the latter, as you have both a Java application and a browser possibly running lots of JavaScript, and both being GC'd languages means they'll be competing for memory rather aggressively.

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Post by jasonwocky »

jwn wrote: post #20

Is there any discussion about IntelliJ supporting multiple open projects at once? Requiring a separate window for each project breaks down when I've got 21 projects open, as I have now in NetBeans.

Not to sound snippy, but how do you define projects in your world, and how do you benefit from having 21 of them open at once? How many do you interact with in a typical day?

That setup is so far removed from my day-to-day experience that I'm genuinely seeking understanding here. At most, I typically have 3 or 4 open "projects" at once, and those would be fairly tightly related (like, a server codebase and a couple of clients for it).

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Post by MHordecki »

jasonwocky wrote: post #23
jwn wrote: post #20

Is there any discussion about IntelliJ supporting multiple open projects at once? Requiring a separate window for each project breaks down when I've got 21 projects open, as I have now in NetBeans.

Not to sound snippy, but how do you define projects in your world, and how do you benefit from having 21 of them open at once? How many do you interact with in a typical day? That setup is so far removed from my day-to-day experience that I'm genuinely seeking understanding here. At most, I typically have 3 or 4 open "projects" at once, and those would be fairly tightly related (like, a server codebase and a couple o…

Even then, I keep these related codebases as separate modules inside a single project.

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Post by reitanqild »

eng_monkey wrote: post #14

Is this another minor release disguised as a major release in order make old customers renew the licence? I say this because I did not notice any major improvements between 12 and 13, but still I had to pay for a new licence.

My complaint is they assigned obvious and easy to fix bugs (not improvements ot new features) to next paid release. Thats were they lost me as a paying customer.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Post by maaaats »

eng_monkey wrote: post #14

Is this another minor release disguised as a major release in order make old customers renew the licence? I say this because I did not notice any major improvements between 12 and 13, but still I had to pay for a new licence.

If you didn't feel you got anything useful in the new version, why pay for it?

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Post by papaf »

thejosh wrote: post #13
gadr90 wrote: post #5

I would love it if they focused on performance improvements and making the editor more lightweight overall. I love WebStorm, but even on my beastly XPS running nothing but it and Chrome, it sometimes hangs doing nothing. I'm starting to investigate other editors such as Atom because of this. I find it hard to believe that a quad core, modern computer can possibly have a hard time running a text editor.

Agreed, I run on Ubuntu for my main machine and it performs quite badly under that, and the fonts are terrible. Yes you can patch them using some system wide font fix, but that makes everything else look like garbage.

Have you installed the Oracle JVM? By default Ubuntu uses OpenJDK.

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Post by Glide »

gadr90 wrote: post #5

I would love it if they focused on performance improvements and making the editor more lightweight overall. I love WebStorm, but even on my beastly XPS running nothing but it and Chrome, it sometimes hangs doing nothing. I'm starting to investigate other editors such as Atom because of this. I find it hard to believe that a quad core, modern computer can possibly have a hard time running a text editor.

Atom uses a lot of resources compared to other text editors. IDEs aren't just text editors though. WebStorm is probably slower than people's experience with IDEA because the languages you use on it don't play to an IDE's strengths.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

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Post by specialist »

viraptor wrote: post #11
gadr90 wrote: post #5

I would love it if they focused on performance improvements and making the editor more lightweight overall. I love WebStorm, but even on my beastly XPS running nothing but it and Chrome, it sometimes hangs doing nothing. I'm starting to investigate other editors such as Atom because of this. I find it hard to believe that a quad core, modern computer can possibly have a hard time running a text editor.

Google a bit for adjusting GC settings in idea - stuff like http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/04/configuring-intellij-... (old, but check the comments). I'm not using it anymore, so can't find what I ended up with, but adjusting the startup options made a huge difference 2 years ago. I think I also went for one of the experimental/less stable concurrent collectors - didn't find any issues in practice.

+1 I bumped up heap space to min 1g max 2b. Now this beast of a Spring heavy project (day job) doesn't hang IntelliJ ("indexing...").

Seems to me these IDEs could suggest reasonable JVM options after profiling your project.

Or at least put the JVM options in the preferences, so I don't have to dig around the install/distro.

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