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Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by zachrose » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 7:26 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #20

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

> "professional artist" I understand the novelty of drawing on an iPad. But I've tried it many times and it's just not accurate at all. You just have to look at the tip of those pens to understand that. IMO Cintiq is the only way to go if you're serious about "art". On the other side, if you use that kind of things for notes and rapid prototyping, why not.

Still though: if it's good enough for David Hockney, it's quite good.

http://www.annelyjudafineart.co.uk/exhibitions/david-hockney

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by emp » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 7:32 AM UTC

lettergram wrote: post #6

I don't really like the feel of using these. I would much rather just tap two points draw a line and drag it where I want it. Why not use an entirely new design to make use of the technology?

When sketching concepts, line weight is created in various ways and used to bring a sketch to life, conveying information such as 3d depth, important areas, material strength, motion, mood, as well as the designer's particular style. I don't think this is intended for CAD and vector drawings.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by dsplatonov » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 7:35 AM UTC

i wish i have such devices integrated with sketch

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by Recoil42 » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 7:38 AM UTC

justinator wrote: post #4

jljljl wrote: post #2

I guess this is the result of Adobe's Might & Napoleon experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKXTKZor3A Too bad about the name change, I thought the name Napoleon (because it's a short ruler) was charmingly clever.

But, Napoleon wasn't short, compared to his contemporaries.

Sure, but the public perception is that he was.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by cormullion » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 7:48 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #20

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

> "professional artist" I understand the novelty of drawing on an iPad. But I've tried it many times and it's just not accurate at all. You just have to look at the tip of those pens to understand that. IMO Cintiq is the only way to go if you're serious about "art". On the other side, if you use that kind of things for notes and rapid prototyping, why not.

But accurate enough:

http://studiojason.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/nikko2.jpg

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by chondos » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 8:05 AM UTC

Innovative idea, but partially just a band-aid for the iPad's shortcomings. This product won't offer pressure sensitivity and freedom to put your palm on the surface that you are writing on... No thanks.

Unbelievable that the iPad has no active stylus/Wacom surface yet. Are they still living by Steve Job's words that if it comes with a stylus, they screwed up?

Wacom themselves make tablets for art/creation. Guess what OS it runs? Many artists are getting Surface Pro tablets to do artwork.... Wake up Apple. Aren't you supposed to be providing innovation for artists? Woz' criticism's are correct, The iPad is not designed for creating, just consuming.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 8:52 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #20

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

> "professional artist" I understand the novelty of drawing on an iPad. But I've tried it many times and it's just not accurate at all. You just have to look at the tip of those pens to understand that. IMO Cintiq is the only way to go if you're serious about "art". On the other side, if you use that kind of things for notes and rapid prototyping, why not.

Surely that depends on what you're doing? Impressionism, cubism, expressionism are not really defined by their accuracy.

I understand where you're coming from. I started drawing when I started reading comics. The lack of accuracy does suck.

But it's possible to do good work http://kylelambert.co.uk/.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 8:55 AM UTC

pash wrote: post #12

prawn wrote: post #7

Adobe's Ink and Slide page is here: https://www.adobe.com/products/ink-and-slide.html Coincidental timing as I have been looking at getting a stylus or Wacom tablet for sketching layouts and quick notes while at my desk. My Jot Pro with Penultimate has been a bit average, unfortunately. At that With the pen and touch line, you're anchored or near your laptop/screen and sketching is detached from the "ink" on screen.…

Adonit announced their new Jot Touch [0] today, perhaps not coincidentally. 0. http://www.adonit.net/jot/touch

Hope it's better than the Jot Script. That is truly awful.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by drcode » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 9:07 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #20

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

> "professional artist" I understand the novelty of drawing on an iPad. But I've tried it many times and it's just not accurate at all. You just have to look at the tip of those pens to understand that. IMO Cintiq is the only way to go if you're serious about "art". On the other side, if you use that kind of things for notes and rapid prototyping, why not.

This one supposedly has a super high accuracy. Did I get it wrong, is this just another capacitive stylus? If so, then I agree it's crap.

Edit: darn, after some research it looks like this pen uses regular capacitance... Unless they solved the accuracy issue that existed with earlier pens, the review I saw must have been misleading... I thought this used a new technology.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by hobofan » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 9:17 AM UTC

prawn wrote: post #7

Adobe's Ink and Slide page is here: https://www.adobe.com/products/ink-and-slide.html Coincidental timing as I have been looking at getting a stylus or Wacom tablet for sketching layouts and quick notes while at my desk. My Jot Pro with Penultimate has been a bit average, unfortunately. At that With the pen and touch line, you're anchored or near your laptop/screen and sketching is detached from the "ink" on screen.…

In my personal experience a pure Wacom tablet always beats a tablet + stylus combo. In past 5(?) years since I've bought a Wacom Bamboo, none of the tablets I tried even came close, and I tried most of them, including the ones with a wacom stylus. The problem all of them have, is that the surface is far to slippery and only the best I've tried came close in precision. The main downside with a Wacom is that you don't have the display directly underneath the drawing area (but you get used to it very quickly) and that that the area is quite small (I'd at least go with a Intuos now). I can't really see Adobes new product solving any problems in the tablet + stylus field.

In the end you obviously should try both and decide what suits you best, but I would choose my 5year old $70 Wacom over any tablet+stylus solution any day.