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Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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Mozilla Bug Report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1024642 Webkit Bug Report: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133804 Apparently both of them are just waiting for Eric to confirm that this is OK.

IE: https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/895019/sup...

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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Please don't make everybody appreciate this story of grief. Everybody who is aware of this now is really sorry for Erics loss. We will accept that cancer is bad. We accept that your daughter dying at this very young age is tragic. But we all will suffer loss in our lives, most of us when our parents die.

Making one's daughters death public like this is arrogant und unfair. It lifts his loss over the ones that we ourselves will have to suffer. We are not even allowed to discuss this rationally, because of the strength of the emotion.

I do not support this "movement", hashtag or thing in general, and I feel emotionally molested.

Edit: Happy downvoting. My grandma killed herself at the age of 86 with a plastic bag. I am claiming IngeborgCreamBeige.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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post #23

Please don't make everybody appreciate this story of grief. Everybody who is aware of this now is really sorry for Erics loss. We will accept that cancer is bad. We accept that your daughter dying at this very young age is tragic. But we all will suffer loss in our lives, most of us when our parents die. Making one's daughters death public like this is arrogant und unfair. It lifts his loss over the ones that we ours…

Eric is not the person making this request, and thus far has only shared the circumstances of his daughter's death with people that know or follow him.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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This whole thing is ridiculous and pathetic. Every minute, 11 people die from cancer. Should we create hashtags and name colors for everyone?

That would be excessive. But reserving some space in CSS for the memory of the daughter of someone who had a significant impact on the CSS standard is probably fine.

We don't have monuments to every dead world leader in Washington, D.C., but we somehow find room to make a few for United States presidents.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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post #24
post #23

Please don't make everybody appreciate this story of grief. Everybody who is aware of this now is really sorry for Erics loss. We will accept that cancer is bad. We accept that your daughter dying at this very young age is tragic. But we all will suffer loss in our lives, most of us when our parents die. Making one's daughters death public like this is arrogant und unfair. It lifts his loss over the ones that we ours…

Eric is not the person making this request, and thus far has only shared the circumstances of his daughter's death with people that know or follow him.

Eric might not be the active agent in this, and I understand the context. Wether Eric feels addressed by this or the person behind the hashtag, I believe that my argument becomes clear.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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post #23

Please don't make everybody appreciate this story of grief. Everybody who is aware of this now is really sorry for Erics loss. We will accept that cancer is bad. We accept that your daughter dying at this very young age is tragic. But we all will suffer loss in our lives, most of us when our parents die. Making one's daughters death public like this is arrogant und unfair. It lifts his loss over the ones that we ours…

"Stop making your loss public; it's not more important than the losses in my life" is an argument I don't hear often. I can see some merit in it, but it sounds like a counter-argument to functionally any form of public funeral or acknowledgement of death. Couldn't this reasoning be applied as criticism for the funeral of Michael Jackson, Jim Henson, basically any celebrity or political figure, and any soldier who returns from military service in a casket?

You can hold that line of reasoning, it's internally consistent... But it appears disjoint from the cultural values I perceive. Maybe the culture is wrong; in this case, my gut tells me it isn't, but I don't have a good counter-argument to explain my gut. ;)

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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This whole thing is ridiculous and pathetic. Every minute, 11 people die from cancer. Should we create hashtags and name colors for everyone?

Ok, I'll bite, because I like the Red Dwarf reference in your username.

It's not about just honoring any random person. His work has had a big impact on the tech community. His articles about his daughter's illness and death were extremely well written and stuck a chord with thousands of readers.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really isn't that big a deal, but there's a lot of us that respect him enough It is a really big deal, adding enormous politics and payload to every change going forward: Once you start memorializing people through standards, you are implicitly choosing not to memorialize everyone who doesn't get codified in such a way. Every city and region has a long backlog of honorarium names for upcoming streets and parks, in…

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value , search for aliceblue. Now look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_blue . It's already happened. You can argue it's a grandfathered name from color standards predating CSS, but this process right here is how these things happen. I think the world will survive the occasional honorarium done in this fashion. I would even be willing to wager that the world…

Yes, but that was a child of a US president, also a song, in a musical and a movie, is used on US Naval vessles, and was one of the original X11 names. And it was picked because it is the specific blue of her gown.

My heart goes out to Eric and his family; I practically learned CSS from him. But I don't think that inclusion of what seems to be an arbitrary purple makes sense.

Re: Name #663399 “Becca Purple” in CSS4 Color?

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This whole thing is ridiculous and pathetic. Every minute, 11 people die from cancer. Should we create hashtags and name colors for everyone?

Just the people with a large role in the CSS community. I don't see how this is any different than a city naming streets after people or a property developer naming cul-de-sac streets after their girlfriends.
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