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Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by reedlaw »

rwallace wrote: post #13

Given that advertising pays for a lot of the services we all use, the use of Adblock and similar programs constitutes defection in game theory terms - the more people who do it, the worse off we all are - which means even if you choose to do it yourself (I personally don't), it is against your interests to encourage other people to do it. Also, given that computing is one of very few areas of technology in which our…

Why not encourage people to pay for services they use and enjoy? The ad-supported services have mixed motives at best and tend to compromise on privacy when it affects their bottom-line.

Also, there are other reasons for blocking ads besides simple annoyance. They tend to be hosted by 3rd party domains that can track browsing history across sites.

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by TwoBit »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #5

I rage quit Firefox years ago because it's impossible to discuss it's critical perf issues without people pointing shifting blame to plugins. It got so bad I ran clean installs that never had a plugin ever, still had perf issues, and people on the internet simply refused Firefox could be at fault. I switched to Chrome and have never looked back. I also have never had a single issue with any AdBlock plugin in Chrome.…

What you're saying applies to FireFox of years ago, but that's changed, especially with the big memory cleanup of a year or so ago. It now performs ~equal to Chrome under low stress and better under high stress.

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by [deleted] »

rwallace wrote: post #13

Given that advertising pays for a lot of the services we all use, the use of Adblock and similar programs constitutes defection in game theory terms - the more people who do it, the worse off we all are - which means even if you choose to do it yourself (I personally don't), it is against your interests to encourage other people to do it. Also, given that computing is one of very few areas of technology in which our…

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Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by [deleted] »

shanelja wrote: post #17
jacobolus wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once you get past about 30 tabs, Chrome performance drops through the floor while memory usage just balloons; by contrast, both Firefox and Safari hold up pretty well. That, plus sending every keystroke in the URL bar to Google, and a bunch of really quirky UIs that I deeply dislike, keeps me from using Chrome for anything but testing. Edit: This seems to be a controversial comment. I’m curious whether folks disagree…

I don't think I've ever had the need for 30 tabs; the magic of the internet is that if I ever need to see a specific website, I can just type in a URL.

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Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by Walkman »

rwallace wrote: post #13

Given that advertising pays for a lot of the services we all use, the use of Adblock and similar programs constitutes defection in game theory terms - the more people who do it, the worse off we all are - which means even if you choose to do it yourself (I personally don't), it is against your interests to encourage other people to do it. Also, given that computing is one of very few areas of technology in which our…

I rather pay a small amount for services which I really need and like then see all the crap all the time. Also I don't mind less, more quality services over crappy sites full of ads...

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by __david__ »

shanelja wrote: post #17
jacobolus wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once you get past about 30 tabs, Chrome performance drops through the floor while memory usage just balloons; by contrast, both Firefox and Safari hold up pretty well. That, plus sending every keystroke in the URL bar to Google, and a bunch of really quirky UIs that I deeply dislike, keeps me from using Chrome for anything but testing. Edit: This seems to be a controversial comment. I’m curious whether folks disagree…

I don't think I've ever had the need for 30 tabs; the magic of the internet is that if I ever need to see a specific website, I can just type in a URL.

I use tabs/windows as a todo list. I have 84 tabs open in my main window, and 36 windows open. Mostly I have 1 window per task, each with a few to a dozen tabs of related stuff. When I complete a task (or decide not to pursue it) I close the window.

It's not the best way of organizing, but it actually fits my ADD/scattershot style of working pretty well.

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by truncate »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #5

I rage quit Firefox years ago because it's impossible to discuss it's critical perf issues without people pointing shifting blame to plugins. It got so bad I ran clean installs that never had a plugin ever, still had perf issues, and people on the internet simply refused Firefox could be at fault. I switched to Chrome and have never looked back. I also have never had a single issue with any AdBlock plugin in Chrome.…

Which platform do you use? For me FF on Windows clearly performed worse than Chrome. On Linux I find it difficult to to see any difference.

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by mandeepj »

__david__ wrote: post #26
shanelja wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've ever had the need for 30 tabs; the magic of the internet is that if I ever need to see a specific website, I can just type in a URL.

I use tabs/windows as a todo list. I have 84 tabs open in my main window, and 36 windows open. Mostly I have 1 window per task, each with a few to a dozen tabs of related stuff. When I complete a task (or decide not to pursue it) I close the window. It's not the best way of organizing, but it actually fits my ADD/scattershot style of working pretty well.

using tools like tab-snap and grab-your-tabs, you can get dump of yours tabs incase you want to pursue things later on

Re: Show HN: Where Adblock+ injects 20K CSS rules, HTTPSB injects one

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Post by zorbo »

HTTPSB just isn't userfriendly enough for me. I run Adblock (not plus though) + Ghostery, and perhaps they use more memory and CPU, but if they do I've never noticed nor cared about it. Their userfriendliness is amazing though. HTTPSB randomly cripples sites, much like NoScript, and I really can't be bothered to deal with that anymore.

With Adblock + Ghostery I feel completely in control. If I want to enable the Disqus script on a single page for a single session, Ghostery easily lets me do that. HTTPSB makes that hard, or perhaps I'm missing something.

Case in point: When I tried to post this comment, I got a "Dead link: users don't match" error which went away when I disabled HTTPSB.

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